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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 08:34:45 PM
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Daily volumes of BTC trade to/from USD and other national currencies (in kBTC): ! Fri ! Sat ! Sun ! Mon ! Tue ! Wed ! Thu ! Fri ! Sat ! Sun ! EXCHANGE ! 01/17 ! 01/18 ! 01/19 ! 01/20 ! 01/21 ! 01/22 ! 01/23 ! 01/24 ! 01/25 ! 01/26 ! Currencies considered
MtGOX | 12.23 | 6.20 | 8.49 | 12.10 | 7.25 | 5.51 | 2.23 | 7.38 | 9.52 | 16.11 | USD,EUR,GBP,AUD,JPY BTC-e | 13.51 | 7.46 | 8.48 | 10.29 | 5.67 | 22.32 | 8.53 | 15.27 | 9.34 | 10.38 | USD,EUR,RUR Bitstamp | 17.11 | 5.49 | 8.42 | 6.97 | 7.67 | 8.31 | 7.40 | 15.78 | 8.70 | 9.70 | USD BitFinEx | 11.47 | 3.81 | 6.63 | 5.46 | 2.89 | 2.97 | 2.83 | 10.99 | 4.62 | 7.88 | USD Bitcoin.DE | 0.61 | 0.27 | 0.23 | 0.39 | 0.45 | 0.69 | 0.42 | 0.52 | 0.30 | 0.34 | EUR Kraken | 0.68 | 0.28 | 0.33 | 0.19 | 0.24 | 0.25 | 0.19 | 0.46 | 0.19 | 0.24 | EUR CaVirtEx | 0.31 | 0.01 | 0.09 | 0.22 | 0.23 | 0.15 | 0.17 | 0.41 | 0.33 | 0.10 | CAD CampBX | 0.16 | 0.04 | 0.04 | 0.10 | 0.09 | 0.05 | 0.08 | 0.13 | 0.04 | 0.05 | USD Crypto-Trade | 0.01 | . | . | 0.01 | 0.01 | . | 0.01 | 0.01 | . | . | USD
SUBTOTAL | 56.09 | 23.56 | 32.71 | 35.73 | 24.50 | 40.25 | 21.86 | 50.95 | 33.04 | 44.80 |
Huobi | 74.21 | 43.60 | 67.27 | 71.78 | 40.55 | 25.81 | 25.67 | 89.25 | 58.16 | 91.31 | CNY OKCoin | 32.28 | 25.31 | 24.52 | 21.00 | 17.31 | 15.88 | 16.50 | 34.01 | 26.33 | 31.40 | CNY BTC-China | 4.55 | 1.77 | 4.05 | 3.44 | 2.07 | 1.62 | 2.01 | 6.82 | 3.04 | 5.55 | CNY
SUBTOTAL | 111.04 | 70.68 | 95.84 | 96.22 | 59.93 | 43.31 | 44.18 | 130.08 | 87.53 | 128.26 |
TOTAL | 167.13 | 94.24 | 128.55 | 131.95 | 84.43 | 83.56 | 66.04 | 181.03 | 120.57 | 173.06 |
All numbers were collected by hand from the site http://bitcoinwisdom.com. Beware of possible errors. For each exchange, the numbers include only the trade volume to/from the currencies listed in the rightmost column. The BTC-e volumes now include retroactively also exchanges to EUR and RUR (together about 1 kBTC/day or less). Trade between BTC and other cryptocoins, such as LiteCoin, is NOT included. Coinbase volume is not available, neither at Bitcoinwisdom nor at Bitcoincharts, but they are said to use Bitstamp for currency conversion. Dates on the header line are UTC. Specifically, "01/15" means "from 01/15 00:00:00 UTC to 01/15 23:59:59 UTC". (Beware that Bitcoinwisdom uses your local time, so the date may appear to be off by 1 day. For example, if you are 2 hours west of Greenwich, it may show "01/14 22:00" when the UTC time is "01/15 00:00".)
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 08:18:43 PM
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Bitcoin Foundation should do some damage control. While their at it, kick out Karpeles' fat a
It may be wiser to start an independent entity with a completey different set of people. The other Foundation board members presumably were brought together by Shrem, were his friends, or brought him in; how can they dissociate the Foundation from him? In any case, methinks that Bitcoin would need some international Users Association with no exchange members in its board, to set standards for exchanges and rate them for compliance.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 06:38:22 PM
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While everyone is busy talking about Charlie Shrem's arrest, no one seems to notice the REAL reason for the market plunge. That is, 3 hours ago Bitcoin was officially banned in Russia.
From what I can understand of the Google translation they did not quite ban it, but declared it illegal for use as currency (like China did), forbade banks to handle it (like China did, and banks in most other countries prudently refrained on their own), warned citizens of its high investment risk, and finally scared everybody with "you may find yourself involved in nasty crimes if you try to work with it".
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 06:17:07 PM
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Kinda funny to see all exchanges act so different. Stamp/btc-e dumping, hyubi not really giving a fuck, and Gox is just sitting near that 1k mark like a kid with autism
Can we conclude that this sudden crash to ~750 in the Western exchanges was due to the news of Shrem's arrest? Huobi was in the middle of a downtrend with occasional hiccups, but clearly it did not start that crash; and it reacted only slightly to it, presumably because of arbitrage trading. It will be some time before the news of Shrem's arrest are translated and reported in Chinese media -- if they are at all. Until this morning I had never heard of the guy, and presumably he and the Bitcoin Foundation are totally unnown in China. So perhaps the Chinese markets will just ignore the incident.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
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Bitcoin had much bigger shit happening and haven't give a flying one for more time Sure, other shady exchanges got busted, and their operators were arrested or on the run. But so far the discourse was "those are peripheral incidents by outsiders, the core of the bitcoin movement is a bunch of honest people who are working within the law for the good of mankind." It will be rather difficult to say that after this arrest, no? Who is the core of the Bitcoin movement, if it is not the Foundation? There may be substantial tolerance for drug use in the US, but I don't think that it extends to drug traffickers -- that is how the FBI is describing Shrem.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 05:41:42 PM
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Um, he is not just owner of an exchange, but a founding member of the Bitcoin Foundation? and Marc Karpeles is another? Whatever one thinks about the morality or legality of the arrest, I expect it will be very bad for Bitcoin's image. Many common people will probably stay away from any X when they learn that a top honcho of the "X Foundation" was charged with criminal use of X.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 12:00:47 PM
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This mini-crash at Huobi (now over?) started at 19:40 China time. Some bad news showed on TV perhaps?
Western Bitcoin traders should find a reliable news source in China to make sense of what is the largest and most influential market by far. While arbitrage trading tends to slow down crashes and rallies at the leading market, will quickly "export" them to other markets.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 27, 2014, 11:00:31 AM
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They don't make crashes like they used to, with the price in free fall leaving behind a single, clean long bloody red trail. Now the crashes ooze down little by little, hesitatingly, and often turn awry lose the name of Action.
I suppose that it is arbitrage that made the market more viscous, and turned those moments of sheer panic into lazy afternoons of vague uneasiness...
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 26, 2014, 11:50:12 PM
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Denomination Name Legend 21000000 The Coinbase 10000000 Menger Carl Menger, founder of the Austrian School of Economics 1000000 Nakamoto possible number of BTC owned by SN 100000 Hayek Nobel prize for contribution to the Austrian Theory of the Business Cycle 10000 Pizza first Bitcoin transaction - 10000BTC for a couple of pizzas 1000 Mises In "Monetary Reconstruction" (1953) Ludwig von Mises argued for a fixed money supply 100 Milton Milton Friedman proposed replacing the FED with a computer 10 Murray Murray Rothbard argued for competing private currencies 1 Bitcoin 0.1 Finney Hal Finney created the first reusable proof of work system 0.01 bitcent 0.001 milicoin 0.0001 Chaum David Chaum - ecash 0.00001 Szabo Nick Szabo - bitgold 0.000001 microcoin 0.0000001 Gavin 0.00000001 Satoshi
Picking a nit on a presumed half-joke: you may make friends among the SI (metric system) guardians if you spell the unit names in lower case: "gavin", "satoshi", etc. Compare with "watt", "tesla", "farad" (rather than "Watt", "Tesla", "Faraday"). The symbol may be an uppercase letter, possibly followed by a lowercase letter, eg. "Gv" for "gavin" (compare "Hz" for "hertz"); but avoid combinations that may be confused with prefix+lowercase unit symbol, like "Gm" for "gigameter" or "Mb" for "megabit".
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 26, 2014, 05:57:04 PM
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Daily volumes of BTC trade to/from USD and other national currencies (in kBTC): ! Thu ! Fri ! Sat ! Sun ! Mon ! Tue ! Wed ! Thu ! Fri ! Sat ! EXCHANGE ! 01/16 ! 01/17 ! 01/18 ! 01/19 ! 01/20 ! 01/21 ! 01/22 ! 01/23 ! 01/24 ! 01/25 ! Currencies considered
BTC-e | 7.59 | 13.51 | 7.46 | 8.48 | 10.29 | 5.67 | 22.32 | 8.53 | 15.27 | 9.34 | USD,EUR,RUR MtGOX | 5.91 | 12.23 | 6.20 | 8.49 | 12.10 | 7.25 | 5.51 | 2.23 | 7.38 | 9.52 | USD,EUR,GBP,AUD,JPY Bitstamp | 8.22 | 17.11 | 5.49 | 8.42 | 6.97 | 7.67 | 8.31 | 7.40 | 15.78 | 8.70 | USD
BitFinEx | 3.68 | 11.47 | 3.81 | 6.63 | 5.46 | 2.89 | 2.97 | 2.83 | 10.99 | 4.62 | USD Bitcoin.DE | 0.38 | 0.61 | 0.27 | 0.23 | 0.39 | 0.45 | 0.69 | 0.42 | 0.52 | 0.30 | EUR Kraken | 0.29 | 0.68 | 0.28 | 0.33 | 0.19 | 0.24 | 0.25 | 0.19 | 0.46 | 0.19 | EUR CaVirtEx | 0.26 | 0.31 | 0.01 | 0.09 | 0.22 | 0.23 | 0.15 | 0.17 | 0.41 | 0.33 | CAD CampBX | 0.12 | 0.16 | 0.04 | 0.04 | 0.10 | 0.09 | 0.05 | 0.08 | 0.13 | 0.04 | USD Crypto-Trade | 0.01 | 0.01 | . | . | 0.01 | 0.01 | . | 0.01 | 0.01 | . | USD
SUBTOTAL | 26.46 | 56.09 | 23.56 | 32.71 | 35.73 | 24.50 | 40.25 | 21.86 | 50.95 | 33.04 |
Huobi | 67.37 | 74.21 | 43.60 | 67.27 | 71.78 | 40.55 | 25.81 | 25.67 | 89.25 | 58.16 | CNY OKCoin | 24.82 | 32.28 | 25.31 | 24.52 | 21.00 | 17.31 | 15.88 | 16.50 | 34.01 | 26.33 | CNY BTC-China | 3.54 | 4.55 | 1.77 | 4.05 | 3.44 | 2.07 | 1.62 | 2.01 | 6.82 | 3.04 | CNY
SUBTOTAL | 95.73 | 111.04 | 70.68 | 95.84 | 96.22 | 59.93 | 43.31 | 44.18 | 130.08 | 87.53 |
TOTAL | 122.19 | 167.13 | 94.24 | 128.55 | 131.95 | 84.43 | 83.56 | 66.04 | 181.03 | 120.57 |
All numbers were collected by hand from the site http://bitcoinwisdom.com. Beware of possible errors. For each exchange, the numbers include only the trade volume to/from the currencies listed in the rightmost column. The BTC-e volumes now include retroactively also exchanges to EUR and RUR (together about 1 kBTC/day or less). Trade between BTC and other cryptocoins, such as LiteCoin, is NOT included. The Coinbase volume is not available, neither at Bitcoinwisdom nor at Bitcoincharts. Dates on the header line are UTC. Specifically, "01/15" means "from 01/15 00:00:00 UTC to 01/15 23:59:59 UTC". (Beware that Bitcoinwisdom uses your local time, so the date may appear to be off by 1 day. For example, if you are 2 hours west of Greenwich, it may show "01/14 22:00" when the UTC time is "01/15 00:00".)
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: January 26, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
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There are two 10 kinds of people: FTFY. Thanks There are 10 kinds of people.....those who understand binary and those who don't. There are 10 kinds of people... those who understand ternary, those who think confuse it for binary and those who don't understand it at all. There are 10 kinds of people: those who use base 10, those who use base 10, those who use base 10, and those who use base 10.
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