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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again
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on: November 28, 2014, 01:39:02 AM
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Give me the TX I will chase it but i suspect a transaction for about 1/3 the cost of joshes house went out some time when the permits were issued for that property.
The links to TX1, TX2 and TX3 are in my message. It may be hard to locate a ~350 BTC transfer to BitPay without the exact date. The source address may not be identifiable, it may be Bitstamp like TX3, possibly in installments.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again
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on: November 28, 2014, 01:28:15 AM
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PS. Perhaps the transaction TX3 -- from a Bitstamp address to a couple dozen outputs -- may be Bistamp itself, or some intermediary, making many withdrawals for many clients, one of them being the guy who needed the 1013 BTC for the payment via BitPay.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again
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on: November 28, 2014, 01:17:53 AM
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So far, this is my best guess for the transaction that sent to BitPay the payment for the house: (TX1) 2014-04-28 22:08:49 http://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/470dd9660d62b60ce8451c22392ba119b1c0b97d0927d6d5ef3ee0c2da043585 inputs: 1BkuugvWi7Gjmwf84rgQ94Qucohs2fSDip ~956 BTC 1Gmn7to4T8ZgBgbnRyS83NDr1vNdTqhKoc ~1013 BTC
outputs: 1DVkcgeJoPjzUnPv4gBggXCierQS8tJWpB (BitPay.com) ~1061 BTC 1BoykhKtyibN12Fr2cTMvEnP1EN52LzHK2 ~909 BTC
The first input of TX1 comes essentially from the output of this transaction: (TX2) 2014-04-25 22:54:14 http://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/671b11d82f38f17a7e3c4e433518cd9f255897932c333bdcc40cfae831d84bd6
non-dust inputs: 12JiS4KLFv8DPxeshVnd6mmpSksqr8ZraM 200 BTC 148hAbyhcvpn9e6pjUYp69vSrC4MW86XyU 200 BTC 1GGXdkZ6W5tQsRMn2EpdVm3NNH4kL7FHbN 200 BTC 1MXsW4PQ3BmG2iEiP1K8ji4bnHsvGLzVnT 200 BTC 19gr6XbnyiaJDqMyKm4WMdKGb4XzvUPNeT ~156 BTC
non-dust outputs: 1BkuugvWi7Gjmwf84rgQ94Qucohs2fSDip ~956 BTC
Note the exact 200 BTC inputs. Are those characteristic of something? The second input of TX1 comes essentially from the output of this transaction: (TX3) 2014-04-24 17:46:45 http://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/a6422b8787cf702bd57077041ba3ee63ddc8d372f280bf8df37676dc82b95077
only input: 1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew (Bitstamp.net) 1588 BTC
outputs: 1Gmn7to4T8ZgBgbnRyS83NDr1vNdTqhKoc ~1013 BTC 16HyaukaMhbZ6idtTkM91Q13nkpDsr5Noc ~485 BTC 1FaZztd9BrFu5AF4FfbVeW6YwQxAwBxfXQ 45 BTC 1DgH36qLGLpiJHKnaDvYv9PoQ6nZ3rPqKL 15 BTC plus a couple dozen small outputs, including 1m9iZsENpnUYN9DY8M9CUBtZiMMDhkup2 (AgoraMarket) 0.06264615 BTC 1227BCzzzY9kBEjRUk3evo8FBggaYp52Zi (SilkRoad2) 0.408099 BTC
Thus, on 2014-04-24 17:46:45 (TX3) someone withdrew 1588 BTC (exact) from bitstamp, paid a couple dozen various small purchases, then sent ~1013 BTC to the 1Gmn7 address, ~485 BTC to 16Hyau. On 2014-04-25 22:54:14 (TX2), someone merged four 200 BTC packets and a 156 BTC one into a ~956 BTC packet at 1Bkuug. On 2014-04-28 22:08:49 (TX1), someone merged the 1Gmn7 and 1Bkuug packets, then split the result again into ~1061 BTC, sent to Bitpay, and ~909 BTC into another address. If it was the same person, perhaps on 2014-04-24 he had prepared the ~1013 BTC in 1Gmn7 for the purchase, but on 2014-04-28, when he made the payment, he had to increase the amount to ~1061 BTC, so he took 47 BTC from 1Bkuug. Makes sense?
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again
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on: November 27, 2014, 07:09:24 PM
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We do not know the date, hence we do not know the amount in BTC (unless it was reported in some other article). Did he use BitPay? The article is not clear on that, but since the previous owners were not very confident, presumably they wanted dollars. The authorities could easily get the amount, and perhaps the address, by subpoening the previous owners and/or BitPay. Or they could ask Josh again. Note that the article says that his two cars were paid with bitcoin, too. #ASKFTC #ASKIRS
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 27, 2014, 06:55:20 PM
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Why monday ? Auction is the 4th of december, i think we will see more dumps till it is over.
Is that what happened last time? If you un-ignore me just this once, here is what happened last time: [ Click on image for a full-resolution version. If the image is truncated, blame the forum (non-)admins... ] (A) 06-12 Official announcement of ~30'000 BTC auction by USMS (B) 06-27 (Fri) Auction carried out. (C) 06-30 (Mon) USMS announces that all lots were taken by a single bidder. (D) 11-17 USMS announces new 50'000 BTC auction. Note that there was no drop after he announcement this time. I do not think that history will repeat itself. Now you can ignore me again.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Autumn Radtke murdered due to something she knew about Brock Pierce, et al.?
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on: November 27, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
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Touche'. Now what does this have to do with any exploit that Yantis might conceivably have used on MtGox? That 2010 bug was a trivial coding mistake. If one issued a transaction request with two very large outputs, the sum would overflow the number of bits allocated for the total, yielding a negative value; and the software then would not realize that the total outputs exceeded (by a huge margin) the amount available in the address. That bug was quickly fixed at the time, but required a rewind of the blockchain to remove the absurd transaction. The bug that Mark blamed for the MtGOX loss was more complicated. The protocol itself was not broken, but allowed certain cosmetic changes to a trasaction request that would not invalidate its signature. By manipulating those cosmetic details, the hacker could cause the MtGOX software to think that a client's withdrawal request did not go through, when in fact it had. The software would then credit back the coins to the internal client account, and try to withdraw again. This was possible only because the MtGOX software was carelessly coded and did not ignore changes in those those cosmetic details. I do not think that this explanation makes sense. Perhaps some hacker tried this attack, Mark noticed it, and thought of blaming the entire loss on it, so that people would not look for the real cause. Or perhaps he noticed the weak spot in the code, but, instead of fixing, it he decided to steal all the coins and then blame it on this bug. Or someone else noticed the weak spot, and convinced or forced Mark to do that.
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question.
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on: November 27, 2014, 06:03:47 PM
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So, when someone says "totally empty", does that mean 0% of 100%, or 100% of 0%, or what?
Isn't that like asking if the glass is half-full or half-empty? what would you recommend i top up my glass with? It depends; which half would you want to top up? can i top up half a glass of beer with half a glass of whisky? Could you please fetch me a glass topped up half of beer, with half of whisky, and with half of Absolut? And some pizza? Do i look like a waitress? How can we tell, if you don't post a photo? Is this really me? Should we infer that you could top up a half-full glass with milkshake, but not with wiskey and vodka?
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question.
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on: November 27, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
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So, when someone says "totally empty", does that mean 0% of 100%, or 100% of 0%, or what?
Isn't that like asking if the glass is half-full or half-empty? what would you recommend i top up my glass with? It depends; which half would you want to top up? can i top up half a glass of beer with half a glass of whisky? Could you please fetch me a glass topped up half of beer, with half of whisky, and with half of Absolut? And some pizza? Do i look like a waitress? How can we tell, if you don't post a photo?
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question.
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on: November 27, 2014, 02:16:36 PM
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So, when someone says "totally empty", does that mean 0% of 100%, or 100% of 0%, or what?
Isn't that like asking if the glass is half-full or half-empty? what would you recommend i top up my glass with? It depends; which half would you want to top up?
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question.
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on: November 27, 2014, 12:24:21 PM
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What's your definition of totally?
Isn't totally means 100%? doesn't totally also mean; 0%? All of 0% is none of 100%, isn't it? So, when someone says "totally empty", does that mean 0% of 100%, or 100% of 0%, or what?
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