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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT users thread.
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on: August 19, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
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Here's proof that Boi qaaf is me, Bruno Kucinskas.
There are some rather suspicious things in this story, that demand a good explanation. Chief of them is: what sort of twisted mind would choose "Boi qaaf" as a nickname for a fake German miner?
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet
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on: August 19, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
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Is this just as secure as a paper wallet? I should imagine it isn't because it requires you the manufacturer to actually have access to the private keys?
The keys are generated using entropy from the trezor plus entropy from the computer you plug into. There's no way for the manufacturer to know your keys. Well, if the manufacturer of a hardware wanted to get the client's keys, they could do it very easily. If you use a special-purpose hardware to store your keys, you have to trust the manufacturer. I see no way around it.
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Economy / Economics / Re: How profitable are exchanges?
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on: August 19, 2014, 01:10:42 PM
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If everyone withdraws the money from the exchange, what would happen?
If the exchange is honest, nothing special. Trading would stop of course and the exchange would stop collecting fees. If the exchange is dishonest, they may have invested some of the clients' money into stock, Ferraris, caviar, strip dancers... then the exchange may be unable to satisfy all withdrawals and then will be forced into bankruptcy.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 19, 2014, 12:23:29 PM
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The problem I'm having with Coinbase is now they want to control volatility on both sides of the equation: during sharp downturns and sharp upturns. So this means that they will quickly and mysteriously "run out of coins" during the next bubble as well.
Indeed, if the price is rising fast, they will be faced with an "unsurmountable opportunity": hold on to their coin reserve as long as they can, by telling customers that they ran out of coins. In general, a middleman in any trade will take some of the profit for himself, as much as he can.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 19, 2014, 11:13:59 AM
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I, too, wish that Coinbase would figure out better planning in order that they do NOT run out of coins...
If the price is falling fast, it would be stupid for them to buy lots of BTC beforehand just to be able to sell to people with no delay over the next few days. The loss could easily wipe out all that they make from fees, and more. Better leave the clients waiting.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 19, 2014, 04:58:00 AM
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The price may recover, perhaps even in a few days. What will be hard to recover is the credibility of bitcoin, and of bitcoin "experts".
No one saw this dip coming, no one could tell where it would end. No one can tell whether it will stop at 460$, keep falling, or reverse.
No on can explain why it happened. No one can tell for sure even where it was made in China or in the West.
So how could people tell whether and when the price will rise again, and by how much?
The "exponential trend" and the "periodic bubble theory" now seem rather far-fetched. [ ... ]
Hang on a minute... this is Bitcoin we are talking about? the same one as usual right? volatility is not exactly rare... infact I thought it was more than expected by all? ancd the market goes both ways right? I am pretty sure that it goes up down sideways, up down sideways , etc it has done it as long as I have looked... with BTC even more so... I just do not get the surprise.... [ ... ] Seems I was not clear. Sure there has always been volatility, and large drops before, but until two months ago it was "expected volatility" that fitted the grand model: namely, average 1000% growth every year, through a series of bubbles more or less regularly spaced in time. The drop after the November peak was eevn seen as a good thing because it was seen as a repeat of the drop after the April 2013 peak, and thus confirmed that pattern. And the rise from May/20 to Jun/10 and the following plateau recalled what happened from July through the end of September last year. But this drop does not fit that pattern any more. It is not the panic drop from ~125$ to ~85 on Oct/02, that was quicly reversed. Analists were expecting the next bubble a month ago, but instead got a week of almost steady drop that brought the price down to the same level as the bottom of the "2014 Silk-Road-Like Dip". So, what is the grand model now?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 19, 2014, 02:54:08 AM
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The price may recover, perhaps even in a few days. What will be hard to recover is the credibility of bitcoin, and of bitcoin "experts". No one saw this dip coming, no one could tell where it would end. No one can tell whether it will stop at 460$, keep falling, or reverse. No on can explain why it happened. No one can tell for sure even where it was made in China or in the West. So how could people tell whether and when the price will rise again, and by how much? The "exponential trend" and the "periodic bubble theory" now seem rather far-fetched. Fund salesmen will have a hard time convincing people to invest. How could an analyst honestly recommend it to his clients? Or maybe not, there will always be suckers who will belive a good sales pitch and buy without researching...
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT users thread.
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on: August 18, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
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Got another post deleted from the official AMT thread. First the context: Refund request for Order numbers 676 and 716 totaling $17,577.00
Dear AMT, I have tried to remain patient through this ordeal but that has reached the end as far as hoping for any mining equipment. You claim to have shipped all miners over a month ago [ ... ] If this is not acceptable please instruct me as to what I should do with the miners if they arrive. Thank you,
Ron, Your miners are due to arrive today actually. Please do not refuse them, accept them and we will forward them back to the office or directly to another client which may have been missed. Refusal means they go back to hong kong and that's just a bitch and half. We have added you to refund list. Thanks. Now my deleted post: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [ ... ] Hi, I am a mining equipment manufacturer and I need some advice. I have been pestered by some bastards who sent me lots of money a year ago and now they want me to refund or deliver, the idiots.
Well, I have a broken miner that I got from the dumpster of another factory. I am thinking of sending it to customer #1, and tell him to accept the delivery and send it immediately back to me in order to receive a refund. Then I will send the same machine to customer #2, and tell him the same thing, and so on.
Of course, that way everybody will lose their right to refund, I can claim that I have delivered all the orders and prove that they accepted them.
My question is: would it be safe to give to #1 the address of #2 as the return address, so that I can save the shipping fees?
I don't know why AMT deleted this post, I thought that mining manufacturers were a brotherhood where everyone helped each other.
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question.
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on: August 18, 2014, 10:01:02 PM
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what if it's an illusion of a concept?
Is that something you falsely believed that you had looked up in an imaginary dictionary? How can his believe be false with such amazing imagination that he can create his own dictionary out of it? What next, complex imaginary maths books? .... what the hell are you guys talking about ? Before we answer your question, allow us to question your question with where exactly are you positioned in this Venn Diagram? Can someone explain this diagram to me? Isn't that diagram drawn precisely when a student asks if someone could explain those sets to him?
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]
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on: August 18, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
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May i please ask what is your personal opinion on what happend with MtGox.com?
I can think of many theories, and the truth is prbably more complicated than any of them... Some things I am quite convinced, though: Mark knows how it happened but he refuses to tell, on the contrary he tried to blame some external hacker exploiting the "malleability bug". But that excuse has been debunked already by some people at MIT. Therefore nothing that Mark Karpelčs has said or written can be trusted. There must have been other people involved. I cannot see how his associate Gay-Bouchery could not have been aware of the loss; and he has not said anything either. Unfortunately there is no real data that people could trust and understand. That leaked database is incomplete, hard to interpret, and may have been doctored to hide the true culprits. People who know the truth may be keeping quiet to protect themselves, or have been bribed or threatened to shut up. It is obvious that many MtGOX customers want to avoid a police investigation, because they were doing something illegal -- even if was not related to the disappearance of the coins.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 18, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
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"When they finally get some product from him, even if it is late, junk, and much less than they paid for, they will be thankful and forget the damage and come back the next day for more, nice and smiling."
yeah... oorrrrr they shank the fuck out of the guy with a sharpened screwdriver and leave him full of holes in a puddle of his own blood and relieve him of his cash and stash... but I guess that depends on what neck of the woods you hail from.
Also are you talking from experience? ha ha sounds like you are familiar with waiting around for shitty dealers to me.
Other than that, what a daft example you give.
As you guessed, not from personal experience. And I bet you have never misused a screwdriver, either. But I have been close enough to people with such personal experience. And it was not funny at all...
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]
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on: August 18, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
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Or worse: they may be trying to preempt an independent criminal investigation. The hint of a connection to Roger Ver is troubling, since he was a major client of MtGOX, and possibly a friend of Mark Karpelčs (both were living in Tokyo at the time). That possible connection alone should disqualify them for this task. And the Sunlot proposal has the same strong smell.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 18, 2014, 04:50:59 PM
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I was just pointing out that this forum is rubbing off on your style, you are becoming more troll like in your posts...
That unfortunately is true, I feel that I have become more cynical with time. Not because of this thread, I think, but of other threads I have been reading. Some of them are beyond crazy, totally surreal. For example, reading the threads about Butterfly Labs, AMT, and other mining rig scams, I could not understand why the victims kept asking and pleading and discussing with the companies for almost a year, still accepting their phony explanations, promises, deals, upgrades -- even sending them more money. Those clients must know that the CEO of one of those companies was convicted, not long ago, of running an international lottery scam that stole 25 million from old pensioners and such. Being told so, a sane client should have stopped wasting time and gone straight to the police to file charges for fraud. Why did their clients instead keep asking, whining, pleading, insulting, sometimes even praising the scammers? Then I had an epiphany (what a swell word, must use it more often! ): that is the way drug addicts interact with drug dealers who failed them. They know that the merchant is a criminal and what he did to them was fraud. But they of course won't go to the police, and know that he is the boss so their only hope is to convince him to deliver. When they finally get some product from him, even if it is late, junk, and much less than they paid for, they will be thankful and forget the damage and come back the next day for more, nice and smiling. Could it be that buying illegal drugs was the only non-trivial "business experience" that those clients had in their life?
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