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Economy / Securities / Re: Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread)
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on: May 03, 2014, 03:01:36 AM
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Cancelled Future Festival catering firms 'still owed cash'3 August 2012 Last updated at 08:03 By Tim Johns BBC Radio Lincolnshire http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-19099595[ ... ] Danny Brewster, who was involved in organising the festival, said money was paid to the company fronting the event, which he claims he has sold. [ ... ] Earlier this year, Mr Brewster told the BBC he had separated himself from the company running the festival - Future Entertainment Ltd - "legally and lawfully", and it had been sold to a man called Ramluda Antonictvius. Mr Brewster was unable to provide any further contact information or details. [ ... ] When asked about the problems, Mr Brewster said: "The caterers and the seven people who purchased tickets did not enter into a contract with me as a person or send me any money, they entered into a contract with Future Entertainment Ltd which is now a failed business and a separate legal entity." Amazing. Bitcoin has obviously become a religious sect. Satoshi Nakamoto is no longer just a mere computer genius, but is already viewed as the greatest benefactor of mankind, a divine Messiah, if not an avatar of God himself. And a con man has only to claim to be a true Bitcoin believer, and praise Bitcoin left and right, for other true believers to adore him and trust him 100%. For they firmly believe that Bitcoin will protect them and triumph and save them from evil, and that there is no other evil but that which comes from the enemies of Bitcoin. That is the only explanation I can find for Danny Brewster having managed to fool so many investors for so long.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 03, 2014, 12:29:46 AM
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Chinese Slumber Method prediction for Saturday May 03Prediction valid for: Saturday 2014-05-03, 19:00--19:59 UTC (not before, not after) Huobi's predicted price: 2744 CNY Bitstamp's predicted price: 451 USD [ Plot legend ] Today's data point was again quite good (S = 0.0031, W = 0.826), but way off the trend of the last four points. Obviously there was another break in the trend. With a single data point, we can only use the banal predicition "tomorrow will be like today". The Bitstamp prediction, as usual, is the Huobi prediction divided by the currency conversion factor R, which was assumed to be 6.09 CNY/USD. It was 6.08 today (May/02), and 6.11, 6.22, 6.25, 6.05, 6.09 on the previous good sample times. Checking the previous predictionPrediction was posted on: Thursday 2014-05-01, 23:30 UTC Prediction was valid for: Friday 2014-05-02, 19:00--19:59 UTC (~19 hours later) Foiled again by the treacherous Chinese Bulgarians Russians Canadians aliens: Huobi's predicted price: 2837 CNY Huobi's actual price (L+H)/2: 2744 CNY Error: 93 CNY (~15 USD) Bitstamp's predicted price: 461 USD Bitstamp's actual price (L+H)/2: 451 USD Error: 10 USD NOTE: "According to recent statistics, 93.2% of all statistics are totally made up." (unknown)
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: SaveGox.com
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on: May 02, 2014, 08:49:31 PM
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Mr. Gay-Bouchery and Mr. McCaleb [ ... ] If this deal is approved by the court, will they be freed of any responsibility for their roles in MtGOX's collapse?
Q: Why are you working with Jed McCaleb and Gonzague Gay-Bouchery? This process takes pragmatism rather than idealism, and without a deal, the assets will be liquidated and customers will have no recourse. We all want an outlet for our anger and frustration, and we all want retribution, but the immediate goal at hand is to get a deal done to avoid liquidation, because once that happens the company is gone and there will be no standing left to go after Mark or investigate the lost coins. Q: What do Jed and GGB get out of the deal? In return for their full cooperation in recovery and prosecution of those responsible, we have agreed to release both defendants from the claims in the lawsuit. I see. Are you going to make the same offer to Mr. Karpelès, then? Or is he the expert that you intend to hire to investigate the matter? Now seriously: it is not a matter of "anger", but deterring further crimes from happening. It would be interesting to know, for starters, when did Mr. Gay-Bouchery became aware of MtGOX's insolvency, and what did he do about it then.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 05:02:32 PM
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An arbitrage trader follows the same "buy low, sell high" strategy of an ordinary speculator, except that he doesn't have to guess the future -- he can do both trades at the same time.
I imagine that arbitrage should be particularly lucrative for exchange owners, especially if they collude.
Suppose that owners Alice and Bob of exchanges A and B agree to show each other the first few entries of their order books in real time, while delaying that information to the public by a few seconds. Whenever Alice sees a sell order in her exchange A that has a lower price than the highest bid in B, she immediately buys into that order, counting that Bob will immediately sell the same amount into that bid. And vice-versa.
If this scenario is possible, the partnership Alice&Bob obviously would make a profit on every such occasion. Alice and Bob could equalize their expenses and profits, at any later time, just by exchanging bitcoins. Thus, even if A is in Bulgaria and trades only with dollars, while B is in China and trades only with CNY, they would never need to exchange dollars to/from CNY. The dollars that Alice would take home would have come from the dollars that her clients deposited in A, while the CNY that Bob would withdraw from B would come from the CNY that others deposited into B.
(Trading fees, bank fees, and currency exchange rates complicate the details, but do not seem to invalidate the idea.)
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 03:02:01 PM
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The current drop does not seem to be China's fault. Apparently it started on BTC-e at 04:05 UTC, with a freak ~2000 BTC dump. Huobi started to react around 04:10, and Bitstamp followed at about 04:25.
What is strange is that the price did not recover after the dump, as it did on several previous freak dumps. Perhaps the previous ones were smaller amounts of BTC that did not find any supporting walls, whereas this one is a significant increase in the supply of coins? Or it was just the trigger that released pent-up market pessimism?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 02:45:58 PM
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ineed? Is it even (still?) possible to get RMB out of China and convert it to USD? If not, then there is no point in mirroring huobi.
In my understanding, arbitrage in both directions is still possible in the current situation, as long as arbitragers have a RMB reserve inside the Chinese exchanges or some means of depositing money there. Since the exchange owners could be arbitragers, this will probably be the case until the end. Arbitrage will be cut off (in one direction) if and when Chinese arbitragers, even insiders, are no longer able to withdraw any RMB. In that case, the price will probably rise sharply in China, while dropping somewhat in the West.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 10:51:54 AM
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So now that the Chinese have finally calmed down a little , do we get series of FUD from the gox ghost?
I don't see how those news could affect the price. The MtGOX drama has slowed down to court speed, so it will be a year or more before it moves any coins or changes the market's perception of bitcoin's future. By the way, is there any estimate of the amount of bitcoins (and other altcoins) currently sitting in all the exchanges' wallets? More importantly, of the coins "on the market" -- in the those wallets, or in the hands of traders who could quickly bring them in for speculative trade? It would be interesting to compare that to the MtGOX heist...
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
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Dump like that is likely by someone with inside info. Expect a bad news article soon.
I didn't watch the trades at the time, but from the 1m chart I would say that someone at BTC-e suddenly sold all his coins into walls at 435 and 430, and marched out, stomping and slamming the door. Another 43 like him and the price will be down to single digits. Another 44 like him...
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 04:31:14 AM
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I was looking at the plot of Plot of the Number of Unique Bitcoin Addresses Used per DayIs there a thread that discusses the meaning of this plot? Some curious features that beg for explanation: * The first two obvious bumps correspond to the Apr/2013 and Oct-Nov/2013 rallies. The third one seems to correspond to the period from about Mar/07 to about Mar/21 (hard to tell, that "smart plot" is not very helpful). But the volume was not particularly high in that period. * In general there seems to be little correlation with price apart from the overall increase in both over the last 2 years. * There is a strong 7-day periodic component, strongest before the Oct/2013 rally and gradually being replaced by more irregular noise.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: May 02, 2014, 03:59:48 AM
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It is 11:00 am in China, and hourly trade volume is still like that of 05:00 am of normal days.
Presumably the robots who are responsible for Huobi's fake volume are still in bed, cooking their hangover from the party last night, and will resume their work in a couple of hours. Otherwise today may be another record low in daily volume, comparable to the Chinese New Year.
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