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Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer
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on: October 15, 2014, 05:14:40 AM
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1464XBT bought last Friday. Bitcoin holding at ATH
Yeah, at least the big money is not cashing out ....... still wonder about who the big dumpers are along the way That is about 600'000 USD. I would not call it "big money"; it could well be the life savings of a moderately well-paid professional, for example. The whole fund is worth ~45 M USD.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF.
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on: October 15, 2014, 05:02:40 AM
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BTW: Thanks for cleaning that link up. It was late and I was tired so I just pasted the Google search link. I'll change it to yours.
I don't know what it is with those stupid massively long Google search results. If I search for a link to XYZ, I want XYZ. I don't want.... https://Google.com followed by 300 characters of gibberish Google wants to know which search results you choose to follow. Thus, instead of giving you a plain URL to the site XYZ, it gives you a URL to Google.com that says "the user clicked on the site XYZ". Google takes note of that, and then redirects you to the site XYZ.
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking
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on: October 15, 2014, 02:34:51 AM
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NeoBee is subject to the same laws all other companies are. What's your point? Actually, last time I checked Havelock was registered in Panama, but not as a stock exchange; and operated with bitcoin, presumably to evade regulations by the US SEC and other agencies. IIRC, Neo&Bee "stock" was rather misleading to investors: the fine print said that it was not equity, but "shares in the profits of the first 2 years". And the "business plan" did not explain how the bank could make money. The "stock" was primarily issued in another "bitcoin stock exchange" operated by Danny Brewster himself and registered in London, which traded only the Neo&Bee "stock". Someone else did some sort of arbitrage between that and Havelock, where the "stock" was traded too. When Danny ran away, the London "exchange" closed, and the "stock" was soon de-listed from Havelock. All investors lost their money, except perhaps for a few lucky ones who sold their shares before the crash. That is precisely the sort of scam that the SEC was created to prevent. (Whether it performs its mission thoroughly is another question. It may well approve the COIN ETF, for example.)
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again
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on: October 14, 2014, 06:29:43 AM
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I duly hope that BitPay is in no way involved in the BFL fiasco, for I truly love them guys in spite of any recent tones depicting elsewise. I'm sure that whatever's the truth, BitPay may be able to explain away any connection with an earnest response. That said, BitPay would, too, be drilled a new asshole if later found out they covered up some misdoing(s).
If I understand correctly the suspicion is that "a certain company" simulated a large buy order from "a certain mining enterprise" via BitPay, when in reality the bitcoins used in that order came from the company itself. It is suspected that the purpose of that manoeuver was to hide the real source of those bitcoins. Presumably BitPay was used merely to convert the large pile of bitcoins into a large pile of dollars. For that hypothesis, it is not necessary to assume any cumplicity from BitPay. The mining enterprise would have sent BitPay a bunch of bitcoins, mined not long ago, asking them to pay the manufacturer in dollars. How could BitPay find that suspicious?
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF.
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on: October 14, 2014, 02:16:37 AM
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This is not an issue that needs addressing, imho. And bitcoiners of all people should understand that. Disclosing the address(es) used for payment could lead to significant breaches of privacy.
IIRC, the Shrem Karpelès & Friends Foundation explicitly promised that all the bitcoins sent to them would be received at that address, as part of their pledge to be transparent. Am I wrong?
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT users thread.
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on: October 14, 2014, 02:10:53 AM
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FYI, I took a look at the miners. I powered up the one I have configured (I am keeping one unmodified and unpowered for now as evidence later if needed as it wont make me any money now either way anyway) I ran a packet inspector against it, and detected nothing outside the ordinary. There is no second mining code as far as I could tell no other pools were being contacted. It is a shitty miner is all. So it is just performing way under spec.
Sorry if it was a false alarm. However, note that the attack I described above does not generate spurious internet packets and does not depend on a second pool. The only external symptom, most of the time, would be a loss of performance. The theft of resources would be visible at the internet level only once every six successfully mined blocks, by that block having a different address in the coinbase transaction. To make sure that the attack is not happening, one should monitor the attempts that are sent to the ASIC rig by the mining software.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: October 13, 2014, 12:02:38 AM
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That is nonsense... Computing and the internet were extremely decentralized in the late 1980s and 1990s. The megatrend, unfortunately, is towards centralization, where user-programmable personal computers are being replaced by sealed terminals of cloud computing and storage, and fully distributed services like SMPT e-mail, USENET, and institutional ftp servers and webservers are being replaced by centralized services, all provided by a handful of mega-corporations - Facebook, Google, Amazon, ... -- which are beyond even the weak public control that democracy provides. Bitcoin itself, by the way, is decentralized only in appearance. Decentralization is supposed to be good because it gives control and privacy to local communities and individuals. But the idea of bitcoin is "we cannot trust banks and local governments with power to control the monetary system, so let's give all the power to ONE global robotic Network that handles all money in the world, and cannot be controlled by humans". To me, it sounds like the plot of a 1950s sci-fi movie...
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: October 12, 2014, 07:35:16 PM
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"... Ponzi's original scheme was based on the arbitrage of international reply coupons for postage stamps..." ^"arbitrage" now doesn't this sound familiar? why wouldn't the usual suspects use every trick in the book? ~ especially in a new unregulated market? ...o rly? lol The Brazilian bitcoin ponzi BitcoinRain (already collapsed) promised their clients something like 9% return per month, minimum. The founder claimed that he could get that much by doing arbitrage between exchanges.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Monero Free For All Thread
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on: October 12, 2014, 07:27:40 PM
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Clearly he meant 22 lunar days, since we all know that monero is going to the moon With respect to the stars, the Moon takes 27 Earth days, 7 hours and 43.2 minutes to complete its orbit; but since the Earth-Moon system advances around the Sun in the meantime, the Moon must travel further to get back to the same phase. On average, this synodic period lasts 29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes and 3 seconds. So by my calculations, the attack should be happening sometime in late 2015 or early 2016 The problem with those calculations is that the lunar days are taken from the perspective of the earth. What would be a lunar day from a lunar perspective. The synodic period is what someone on the Moon would call an average day - that is, the mean time from sunset to sunset.
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Your opinion: Is mining still profitable?
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on: October 12, 2014, 08:42:44 AM
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Buying the coin is better than mine it, I learned my lesson, I'll never make my ROI
What do you tell all those people who bought coin at $600? When will they "ROI"? If, at the time, buying at 600$ was cheaper than mining, then those people are still better off today than those who mined coins at a cost higher than 600$.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again
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on: October 12, 2014, 05:26:30 AM
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It's hard to imagine that that language was drafted by an attorney for the motion in which it's contained. It's a continuation in principle of the culture of ad hominem attacks and shoot-the-messenger logic that characterizes at least everyone in BFL that posts here. Incredible.
Indeed. It reminds me of the letter that Danny Brewster sent to the Central Bank of Cyprus when they denied a bank license for Neo. Although nominally addressed to the CB, it was obviously not written with the intent of getting them to reconsider. It was meant to the public, to paint himself as an innocent victim.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT users thread.
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on: October 12, 2014, 02:52:32 AM
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Many years ago, a colleague here was a asked by the police to help them crack the password of a custom-made bookkeeping computer that they had seized from an illegal gambling site. He just dumped and disassembled the binary, then, intead of trying to deduce the password or looking for the places that called the password-checking routine, he just changed a one-byte opcode in the latter, so that it would accept any password except the correct one.
May be fun doing the same to the AMT binary, perhaps.
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question.
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on: October 12, 2014, 02:29:04 AM
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Does this thread has any rails or is it derailed by nature?
Speaking of nature, have you ever been caught have sex with a goose? I suppose that we should not ask the questioner to clarify the intended meaning of "goose", and rather derail the topic again to, say, mooses, or nooses, or perhaps booze, right? You made that up, didn't you? How the heck...? Ever heard of Google? Uh, ok... is that what people mean by 'cut your loose'?
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