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1321  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: October 01, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
1.) It has no screen but offers a "hardened mode" which requires you to plug it into another computer (or the same one). It will emulate a keyboard and tell you the transaction info and a one-time PIN which you'll have to enter after re-plugging again into the main computer with the wallet. It's way less elegant than trezor in this regard, but this protects against malware sneaking in attackers address.
If you plug into the same computer, which is compromised, the malware could intercept the keyboard signals coming from the device and replace the transaction details shown to the user, while retaining the PIN.  Or is there a protection against that?

Hardware wallets are supposed to be most useful when one is traveling and must use a computer provided by the local shop, hotel, guide, cybercafe, etc..  In those scenarios, there is the possiility that the PC has malicious hardware as well as malicious software, that the devce will be stolen after the use, and that there are hidden cameras watching over the user's shoulder.   One should make sure that they are safe in that scenario.

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2.) The devices requires the user to enter a PIN. If entered wrongly 3 times, device will delete wallet info.

I understand that it is a fixed PIN that must be entered in "non-hardened mode", or before starting the "hardened mode" procedure; correct?  In that case, if malware on the computer captures that PIN, and the device is stolen some time later, would that captured PIN enable the thief to use the device?

3 times is too few...
1. I forget that I changed the PIN, and I enter the old one.  Rejected.
2. I assume that I mis-typed the PIN, and I enter again the old one, carefully.  Rejected.
Now I have only one chance to remember that I changed the PIN and enter it correctly.  As time goes on, there may well be a half a dozen cases of erased wallets for every 1000 devices sold.
1322  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2014, 06:53:13 AM
It is a part of one of the weirdest contemporary dance shows that the wolrd has ever seen... if you want to see it then here is the link....


http://youtu.be/FbuluDBHpfQ


Nature invented death so that no one would have to remember certain things for eternity.  Cheesy
1323  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 08:04:24 PM
What about how much he made running the BFL mining bonds on GLBSE?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75433.0
There's also Bitcoin he might have had from even before that. He joined in April 2011, when BTC was under $2.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6223.msg95582#msg95582
I began looking at bitcoin last December; I had read mentions of GLBSE but somehow I was not aware that Josh was running it.  

Were the GLBSE customers/investors ever refunded, or made good in some other way?
1324  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 04:48:26 PM
There are pictures [ of the foam pitchforks ] in another document they are giant though, and besides they've been posted here anyway.

Indeed, and thanks for posting them! But I found it quite funny that they were one whole item of the FTC Investigator's report. 

What next?

"Your honor, I direct your attention to annex T3, titled Table of Obscene Expletives, Insults, and Disparaging Epithets Used by the Defendants about Their Customers.  As can be seen on page 4 of that table, line 32, ..."

1325  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT users thread. on: September 30, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
I sould have used a "Grin", but the libel part is no joke...
1326  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT users thread. on: September 30, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
So are you saying that AMT bought up some used equipment from some chinese miner and shipped them to customers?

Only a thoroughy shameless scammer would do that.  Why should one accuse AMT of doing it? That could be prosecuted as libel.
1327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
So according to sworn deposition he got a $30k hardware bonus and used it to get 10 BFL Singles that mined 10 - 15 BTC and he stopped using them in June - July and they went to a secret warehouse code named the "Widmere Facility".
I don't think that it was "secret" really.  IIUC, Widmere is the place where the warehouse is located.
1328  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
That was some bad DOX by the FTC documents right?
What do you mean? In a trial, the identities of all people involved are usually disclosed, unless there is a compelling reason to keep them sealed (e.g. when minors (but not miners!  Cheesy) are involved).  Or am I wrong?
Cell number.
Driver Lic number.
Social Security Number.
You did read it right?
The cellphone number may have been a slip, but the other two are usually entered in the public records, to identify the person, aren't they?
The SSN should have been redacted.  Not sure about the rest...
http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/privacy

I stand corrected, thanks.  Is it true that those PDF files were leaked without authorization?
1329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: September 30, 2014, 03:01:57 PM
How does "new money"'s perception of the coin change if the inflation period is long? I mean, what benefits are there in the long inflation period for investors? How is growing economy of the coin dependent on the length of the inflation period?

Nobody loves inflation, but few people regard it as a horrendous evil to be avoided at any cost.   Normal people do not expect that a hoard of cash will keep its value, much less grow more valuable, by itself, over time.  And, for the good of the economy, they shouldn't "invest" in cash or other "dead" assets: they should use their intelligence to choose productive enterprises, and invest in them.   

Cryptocurrencies were meant to be means of payment; their repurposing as long-term investment has always been criticized by economists.
1330  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 02:04:14 PM
That was some bad DOX by the FTC documents right?
What do you mean? In a trial, the identities of all people involved are usually disclosed, unless there is a compelling reason to keep them sealed (e.g. when minors (but not miners!  Cheesy) are involved).  Or am I wrong?
Cell number.
Driver Lic number.
Social Security Number.
You did read it right?
The cellphone number may have been a slip, but the other two are usually entered in the public records, to identify the person, aren't they?
1331  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 01:57:36 PM
That was some bad DOX by the FTC documents right?

What do you mean? In a trial, the identities of all people involved are usually disclosed, unless there is a compelling reason to keep them sealed (e.g. when minors (but not miners!  Cheesy) are involved).  Or am I wrong?
1332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Monero Free For All Thread on: September 30, 2014, 12:36:37 PM
Dont know anything about this coin.
Sounds like something out of South america or Italy?
Monero is Esperanto for "money".  It is designed by a company based in the Republic of Esperantonia.  Grin
1333  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
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[5/21/2014 7:42:05 PM] Marc Goodpasture: AJ sent us 9 more boards for tomorrow

[5/21/2014 7:46:46 PM] Jeff (PR): Are we shipping them to customers ?

[5/21/2014 7:52:22 PM] Sonny: We're not there yet.

[5/21/2014 8:15:58 PM] Jeff (PR): Next week now?

[5/21/2014 8:16:29 PM] Sonny: The magic formula has not been defined.

[5/21/2014 8:16:45 PM] Sonny: Once it is, we can schedule shipping down to the
minute.

[5/21/2014 8:17:04 PM] Sonny: For the moment, we're still swapping mosfets &
resistors to see what works.

The magic formula has not been defined?

From the last sentence, it could be parameters of the electronics to be added to (or replaced on) the boards, such as clock rate, voltage, etc..   OR it could be how long to keep the boards for "testing".
1334  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: September 30, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Can i ask you what you think about that cheaper product: https://buy.hardwarewallet.com/hw1shop/#shop

1) no screen to verify transactions. If the PC fed it incorrect payment info it would sign it - whereas a trezor requires you to confirm the address and amount shown on its screen and click the OK button

Right. If the PC is compromised (which is the only justification to have a hardware wallet), the security of that thing is zero.  Expect sad histories soon...
1335  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucked us over again on: September 30, 2014, 07:37:33 AM
Please, don't plan vendettas.  Let the justice system work.
Man, your funny! The just us system you mean! You been watching too many movies!
Or maybe you have been reading too much fringe stuff...

The judicial system sucks, but, overall, it is still better than the alternatives.

1336  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2014, 07:11:23 AM
hey guise, i put my bitcoin atm on the beach
don't listen to jorge stolfi, this is real guise

it's definitely real
I am still inspecting the image carefully, I am sure there is some evidence of photoshopping somewhere.
1337  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: September 30, 2014, 05:09:18 AM
So what about now?
I don't know; does anyone care about mistletoe?
Don't you think that's a strange question?
Why shouldn't everybody be curious about the stickiness of Phoradenron leucarpum's berries?
Do you mean Phoradendron leucarpum?
Would you accept my apologies for that typo?
why would he do that?  Tongue
Arent't apologies fungible, I mean, couldn't he save them and give them to someone else?
Er, was that question somehow embarassing, or too difficult to answer?
Who is Er?
Hoo knows.  Do you know or should we ask someone else?
Er, brother of Hum, son of Duh and Well, don't you know?
I do know but can you explain why I should share this knowledge?
Wouldn't you do it just to gain everlasting fame?
Don't you know that in life, as well as in this thread, some questions are not meant to be answered?
Not even questioned?
Ergo, would posting such be considered sacrilegious?
Could you please translate that into English?
Which "that", the "ergo" or the "sacrilegious"?
1338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2014, 03:26:14 AM

The girl has a shadow, the glass has a shadow. The ATM has a low light casting the shadow. You can see its reflection. You can see the light lighting up the trim on the wall as well. If it's shopped, it is really pro work.
The ATM was rendered from a 3D model with that lighting and alpha channel, then composited over the photo, and the shadow was photoshopped by hand.

The light that is supposed to cast the ATM shadow on the floor should also cast a fainter shadow of the glass railing on the floor at left, but there is none. 

Also the shadow of the ATM on the floor is too sharp. Compare with the shadow of the cheque on the ATM body (which should be sharper).

Also, the lighter area at the top of the glass railing, behind the ATM, is the reflection of a light wall located behind the camera.  But then there should be a reflection of the ATM as well, just to the left of the ATM.

There are other defects, but those should suffice...
1339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2014, 02:55:23 AM

It's a photoshop. I can tell from the pixels.
Good eye!  Indeed, the shadow is wrong, there is no reflection on the floor, ...
1340  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2014, 12:16:51 AM
Not even the western governments, nothing is changed there either, the only thing its effects is the forex markets.

Indeed, the dollars do not move to China either, they stay in Western banks.  But they become property of Chinese citizens.

Assuming Chinese citizens own the majority of the hashpower, bitcoin is just another export product that adds to China's export revenue.

The reverse was true in 2013, when Chinese citizens were buying bitcoins from outside China like crazy.  Presumably they had to change yuan into dollars (or yen, etc.) to do that.   Perhaps that surge in currency exchange was one of the motivations for the Chinese government's decree in Dec/2013.

(One of my theories for the MtGOX collapse is that "Markus" and "Willy" were buying coins from MtGOX clients with virtual dollars and selling them in China, counting on getting the money out of China eventually; but the plan was foiled by the December decrees (which led BTC-China and OKCoin to lose their bank accounts) and/or by the subsequent BTC price drop.)
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