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981  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Chinese Mining mogul FriedCat has stolen more than a million in AM hash SCAM on: April 25, 2015, 03:50:34 PM
As I remember, ASIC miner is very business oriented, the main focus of their business idea is to make lots of fiat profit for shareholders

And when that is simply impossible following a higher hash rate and lower exchange rate, there is no reason for the business to continue

Only those who has a belief in bitcoin will stay long term in the business, and that requires extensive knowledge about the fatal flaw in today's fiat money system. It is normal that a business man do not have such insight when he only cares about making quick fiat profit

.. has a belief in bitcoin AND lots of money to pay the electricity bills, salaries, rent, maintenance, and equipment upgrades.  Unfortunately, people who let their ideology or religion determine their investment decisions rarely have money to spare.
982  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: April 25, 2015, 11:22:09 AM
I think everyone posting here might be wasting their time. BitcoinWisdom hasn't been here in two months...

A pity, he would surely have loved to see this:


EDIT:
  Source article (at ZeroHedge)
  Reddit thread claiming that it is Bitcoinwisdom's screen
983  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2015, 03:29:21 AM
The misguided "professor" in question is an inveterate Buttcoiner through and through, believes that Bitcoin is inherently a scam, yet feigns airs of curiosity and moderation to suck people into his egotistical troll web. He has very predictable patterns of disingenuously just "asking questions" as troll bait to setup pre-conceived wall of text rants.

I am not feigning anything; my signature says what I think.  You know my name, my job, my face, my opinions.

Bitcoin was not meant to be a scam, but it has become one.

"Misguided" is what I see most among bitcoiners: partly because of wishful thinking, partly because the snake oil salesmen try their best to hide the truth and spread lies (like "China is not important", "adoption is increasing", etc.).

I contribute serious stuff to /r/bitcoin and make fun of bitcoiners on /r/buttcoin.  The latter I consider myself to be fully entitled to, as a small compensation for the insults that I get here, on reddit and on twitter -- merely for, once in a while, writing some unpleasant truths about bitcoin.
984  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BFL fucked us over again (redux) on: April 25, 2015, 12:34:18 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted here already. I don't know whether you will find it funny.
http://bitcalc.beepboopbitcoin.com/
(Be sure to click the pink square at top right at some point, it leads to the part most relevant to this thread.)
985  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
Dr Stolfi I see bitcoin made it onto your wikipedia entry !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Stolfi

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In late 2013 Jorge took an active interest in the economics of cryptocurrencies. He became extremely skeptical about its underlying soundness and chances of success, and has been advising the Brazilian public against investment in bitcoin. [13]

Yes, some jerk had edited that article to say that I had one of the largest bitcoin fortunes and was a great fan of bitcoin. So I had to fix it.  (Thanks, but no thanks, for reminding me of another reason to hate bitcoin.)

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Following the link I also see there was a "Beware Bitcoin!" article back in December 2013.
http://advivo.com.br/blog/jorge-stolfi/cuidado-com-bitcoin
All I ask is would you write the article now, 18 months later ?

I must update it. There are many more things that people must be warned about.
986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 05:55:28 PM
Go write some dissenting blogs, articles, white papers, something other than trolling this spec sub.

If he was really interested in debating the merits or lack thereof of Bitcoin, he would do so in the technical discussion forum where there are people who are more qualified to address his concerns.

I did and do both things.  Like thisand this for example.

As I explained several times before, I have about a hundred threads in my watchlist, but most of the time this is the only one that comes up.  (Second one is a bizarre thread about the BFL opera, and next is 'Answer the above question with a question'.)  And this is the best of them in several ways: most interesting news and issues about bitcoin get mentioned here.  Moreover, most people here are basically gamblers; insults and all, you are a saner crowd than the deluded fanatics and conmen that frequent some of the other threads.

I am not here to convince anyone, but of course I cannot rest idle when I see something wrong on the internet.  And if someone asks my opinion, why should I not answer?

Every one of Dr. Stolfi's 'point's has been addressed multiple times, most of them in this very topic, over the several years he has been trolling here.

Yes, they have been "addressed", but I did not find the answers convincing.

Note that the answer to almost every question about the future of bitcoin ultimately rests on what one believes that some persons or institutions will do in suh and such circumstaces.  Well, bitcoin believers and skeptics obviously have quite different views on such things, and there is little chance that debating will change that sort of belief...
987  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 04:51:46 PM
If I understand your philosophy re: Bitcoin, there is only 'the worst':  Either Bitcoin will fail on its own defects, or some government(s) will destroy it, if it works as designed.  Is that a fair summation of your position?

As it says in my signature, I cannot imagine a plausible future where bitcoin will be successful.  I see many ways in which it could fail, those are two of them.  The more I read, the more skeptical I become.

Take the economy of mining, for example. Yesterday I found this paper claiming that the bitcoin mining network now consumes about as much electricity as the whole country of Ireland , ~1 GW.  I found that hard to believe, but it seems correct.  For what? So that some drug dealers can be absolutely certan that their customer will not double-spend them? So that no one can retroactively change the amount that someone spent on Overstock?  So that the police cannot seize the coins of ransomware criminals?

That absurd consumption of energy does not have any rational justification.  It does not even make the network more secure against 51% attacks, because it is still the case that 4-5 mining entities have more than 51% of the hashing power, and that situation is more likely to get worse than better if the network grows more.  Moreover, further price drops and/or the next halving may cause morethan 51% of the hashpower to be turned off -- and may be acquired or rented by a hostile entity, at scrap iron prices.

The absurd consumption of energy is merely a consequence of the block reward being fixed at 50 BTC irrespective of the price, and of the price being 50 times what the current use as currency would imply.  The overvaluation, in turn, is a consequence of the fixed supply, that created the mirage of a currency whose value will grow to astronomic levels; a mirage that led to a spiral of hoarding and absurd price increases.   The overvaluation also resulted in the block reward being 100 times or more the typical fees contained in a block, so that miners have essentially no incentive to include transactions in it.  Worse, the network consumes about 1 million dollars per day that must be provided by new investors, lured by the promise of fabulous speculative gains.  And the absurd will only grow if the price increases again.

This system simply does not make any economic sense.  It is not sustained by sound market principles, but totally by hype, by the belief of gullible people that they will become billionaries if they just buy as much bitcoin as they can and hold hard to it.

From what I have read around, most people who claim to believe in bitcoin's future do so because of various reasons -- because they own bitcoins, because they are employees or investors of bitcoin-related enterprises, because they see it as a way to buy drugs and other illegal things, because of hallucinations about it ending poverty, corruption, banks, governments... but almost never because they rationally believe that it will be a viable currency and efficient payment system.  Which is the only thing that it was designed to be, and it is becoming clear to everybody that it will not be.
988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 02:15:09 PM
Fantasy  ...... Are you feeling ok doc?

I believe that we should always think about the worst that could happen and try to be prepared for it.

http://bizarro.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/172/2013/09/bz-panel-09-30-13.jpg
989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 01:20:36 PM
May I ask what the professor thinks about projects like maidsafe and ethereum?
Sorry, I don't know anything about them...
990  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 12:04:42 PM
I would expect that it won't be long for someone to suggest a core change which blocks or otherwise restricts transactions against those early addresses.  This would dispel the spectre of the early days and then maybe Satoshi can step out of the shadows and claim credit for his work without risking his life or that of his family/friends.

If bitcoin survives and grows, I think that it is quite likely that the protocol will be amended with a government-mandated "black list" of coins that cannot be moved, and a "white list" of transactions that must be accepted even without a valid signature. 

If bitcoin succeeds, it is even possible that the current blockchain will have to be junked, and a new blockchain be restarted with suitable legal constraints and devices.

In either case, the bitcoiners who understand the goals of bitcoin will surely scream and claim (with reason) that those violations of the basic principles render the coin worthless.  The other 99% will not even understand what the fuss is about, and will mostly ignore the changes, or even approve them...
991  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 24, 2015, 09:38:09 AM
Yes... It will be a historical moment because most of those bidders are probably noobs thinking they are bargaining a whole bitcoin at $40.... They will get crushed in seconds, -50% instant loss... Great!

Those "bids", all for exactly 100 shares, cannot be real bids from end investors.  They must be only token amounts that the level-2 brokers entered only to have their names listed on that page.

The lower-tier brokers, if they care to keep their clients,  should be telling them to wait until trading starts before buying in.
992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
If I was Satoshi I would have unloaded all my shit @ 1000 USD.
Then I'd be Dan Bilzerian'ing it until my last day on earth.

If bitcoin collapses to 0 $/BTC, there will be thousands of furious bagholders screaming 'ponzi' and looking for someone to sue. Most early adopters who cashed out in time may be able to claim that they only believed the spiel and were just lucky.  The unlucky ones, and law enforcement, will go after the man who conceived and implemented the scam.  If he were to pocket hundreds of millions... Guess where that money would have come out of.  
993  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 23, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
taken from stackexchange.com with 84 upvotez:

"With "bitcoin days destroyed", the idea is instead to give more weight to coins which haven't been spent in a while. [ ... ] This is believed to give a better indication of how much real economic activity is occurring on the bitcoin network. [ ... ] The graph of overall bitcoin days destroyed is believed to show that the genuine level of activity in the Bitcoin economy is continually increasing [ ... ]"

Well, just looking at those huge spikes we can tell that the graph does not show "genuine level of activity in the Bitcoin economy".  

The explanation given by other posters for the last spike, in particular, shows why: "coins moved" does not mean "coins changed hands".  That goes for "old" coins as well for "new" ones.
994  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 23, 2015, 08:12:56 PM
Can somebody please give me the right directions?
Well, "<-----------------------" is a left direction, "----------------------->" is a right direction; do you really need more than one?
995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2015, 06:23:21 PM
Speaking of people who don't see jokes where they're obvious
Sorry for taking it at face value, but in other threads people have been posting far weirder theories, in all seriousness.  Cheesy
996  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2015, 04:33:58 PM
Anyone else think it's suspicious that the Gox lawyer is called Kobayashi, just like in The Usual Suspects? Pretty sure no good can come of this.
I was thinking of Kobayashi Maru.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru

Kobayashi is a very common Japanese surname; I had a colleague with it.

Anyone finds it suspicious that the Coinbase CEO is Armstrong, like the first man to step on the moon?  Cheesy
997  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2015, 02:48:12 PM
I think they're distributing everything that they can liquidate but decided on paying the coins as coins and not sell them for FIAT. If I remember correctly you can choose your preferred way of getting your coins back when you file your request with Kraken!

That is just a survey for now. If and when Kobayashi is ready to distribute the spoils, he may ask for real whether you want BTC or JPY; but he does not know yet whether that will be possible.  That's what I got from the FAQ he posted.
998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2015, 02:43:44 PM
I'd definitely wouldn't care trading; but in the case of Kraken if they grant me with a nice amount as promised for letting them claim my funds

I understood that they only give you an exemption from trading fees, not an actual reward.  Isn't that so?
999  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2015, 02:41:37 PM
Are refunds being made in BTC or USD? Haven't been following the Gox thing lately.

In the documents posted yesterday, Kobayashi says that he is still looking into the possibility of returning the BTC as BTC, but he does not know whether it will be possible or sensible.  In any case, BTC claims will be converted to JPY at a specified rate, and the amount awarded will be expressed in JPY, even if it gets paid out as BTC.
1000  Economy / Economics / Re: A descriptive sum-of-bubbles model for the price of bitcoin on: April 22, 2015, 01:37:34 PM
Until mid-2014, it was widely claimed that the price would continue to grow, as it has done in the past, by a sequence of bubbles spaced roughly 9 months apart, with exponentially increasing peak amplitudes.

Statements like this make buttcoiners seem like idiots.

Sorry, I am confused.  Did you mean that the bitcoiners' claim of train-of-increasing-bubbles was pathetic, or that I am wrong and they never claimed that?
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