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From owner-vms-list@voynich.net  Thu Nov  1 09:12:00 2007
From: funny bunny
To: vms-list@voynich.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: VMs: Erhard Landmann + "michiton" info please?


  My Pirahã/Sumerian comparison list seems to have got a bit mangled by 
the new windows live, everything keeps getting squashed up and losing 
it's structure, so it may not be clear.  I've tries to rearrange the 
original list below but don't hold up hope for it staying that way once 
sent.

  Over time "is it not" becomes "isn't it" becomes becomes "innit?". The 
theory any way (that I subscribe to), is that to start with there were 
only a few basic sounds representing various things for example all 
things soft, female and round would have the same sound. All things 
scary, dark and childbirth would have the same basic sounds. Over time 
these were joined together in various ways to make more complex and 
seperate thoughts and to "represent" other things. Things like sun and 
water have been around as long as we have and should have their identity 
"set" early on, around words like bright, awe, father. Most early words 
were "cv" or "vc" in form, over time the complex forms degraded as well 
as became coplex, vowels were lost and consonant clusters formed, vowels 
and consonants shifted (mostly in well known sequences). All I attempt 
to do is ungroup the consonant clusters, consider what could be the 
original vowels and consider the history of various letters, look at the 
most ancient languages and see if I can apply that to the VM. I am not 
looking for any language in particular, just doing a comparison. I would 
like to see others do comparisons, the few that have been domne (Old 
German/Erhard Landmann, Baby eye) have been laughed out BUT although I 
have not chosen to use certain words out of posibilities, eye, bear, 
ship and ray (bright) have all come up as posibilites for me too, how 
strange to suffer from the same obscure translations by different means 
and different language comparisons?

  A few of the comparisons below, to show similarities in words like 
"hand" can be found across time and continents. Nahuatl and polynesian 
in the same way have comparisons to Egyptian, and so on back to when we 
first came out of Africa (evolutionists/creationists alike - humans out 
of Africa).

  Pirahã hand = xoi

  Sumerian hand with sh/x =xo

  Pirahã cry =xisi'

  Sumerian cry with sh/x = i-si-ix

  The structure is in fact similar.  Maybe I'm the only one to see it? 
But anyway, no one has to to believe in the proto-language theory and 
I'm not looking for permission, it is just my way and I try to see what 
comes out of comparing the VM in the same way. :-)) As the Vm list 
prides it's self on being tollerant of ALL ideas however far out I hope 
to continue with my story, and post bits of it.


  Are people seem so concerned that they will be laughed out of serious 
acaedmic circles that they won't go where angels fear to tread?
  Come on Jim, any chance of you having a go at Nahuatl? What have you 
got to lose except your pride, your reputation, your friends, the 
respect of the academic world......?
  Ok! I get the idea.....still....I would like to see other attempts.

  Bunny