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201  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 12, 2014, 01:14:10 AM
"Stupid" questions are often asked by those unwilling to think for themselves, don't you agree?
Haven't you ever purposefully asked a stupid question only to force others to think for themselves?
Well, of course but now you've gone and let the cat out of the bag, haven't you?
Sorry, was it Schroedinger's cat?
I don't think so; more likely some cousin of The Cat In The Hat, don't you think?
Like, a Cat with a Hat in a Bag in a Box?
Something like that, maybe, eh?
What about a dog in a fog?
Or, rather, a hog in a bog?
Asleep on a log?
And sipping eggnog, why not?
But how can it be sipping eggnog, when it's clearly asleep on that log?
Oops, did I ask a stupid question again?
202  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucks us over again on: July 12, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
Seasoned scammers pretend to be victims too, to earn the sympathy their victims.  Beginner scammers insult their victims when they start pressing. This may work too, the victims usually shut up once the insults escalate to the maximum level possible. But sometimes it spurs the victims to seek a more effective kind of dialogue.
203  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 12, 2014, 12:12:11 AM
"Stupid" questions are often asked by those unwilling to think for themselves, don't you agree?
Haven't you ever purposefully asked a stupid question only to force others to think for themselves?
Well, of course but now you've gone and let the cat out of the bag, haven't you?
Sorry, was it Schroedinger's cat?
I don't think so; more likely some cousin of The Cat In The Hat, don't you think?
Like, a Cat with a Hat in a Bag in a Box?
Something like that, maybe, eh?
What about a dog in a fog?
Or, rather, a hog in a bog?
Asleep on a log?
And sipping eggnog, why not?
204  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 11:54:22 PM
"Stupid" questions are often asked by those unwilling to think for themselves, don't you agree?
Haven't you ever purposefully asked a stupid question only to force others to think for themselves?
Well, of course but now you've gone and let the cat out of the bag, haven't you?
Sorry, was it Schroedinger's cat?
I don't think so; more likely some cousin of The Cat In The Hat, don't you think?
Like, a Cat with a Hat in a Bag in a Box?
Something like that, maybe, eh?
What about a dog in a fog?
Or, rather, a hog in a bog?
205  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 07:35:15 PM
that's a shitty question, we need to start a new run
for example, who do you  think will win the WC, Germany or Argentina?
Why do you think that your question is better than the previous question?
Why must we argue about who has the better question?
I have had more than one job where they say "there are no stupid questions", but I am not convinced.
Stupid questions do exist (so do stupid bosses  Cheesy), what do you think?
"Stupid" questions are often asked by those unwilling to think for themselves, don't you agree?
Haven't you ever purposefully asked a stupid question only to force others to think for themselves?
Well, of course but now you've gone and let the cat out of the bag, haven't you?
Sorry, was it Schroedinger's cat?
I don't think so; more likely some cousin of The Cat In The Hat, don't you think?
Like, a Cat with a Hat in a Bag in a Box?
206  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 07:22:47 PM
that's a shitty question, we need to start a new run
for example, who do you  think will win the WC, Germany or Argentina?
Why do you think that your question is better than the previous question?
Why must we argue about who has the better question?
I have had more than one job where they say "there are no stupid questions", but I am not convinced.
Stupid questions do exist (so do stupid bosses  Cheesy), what do you think?
"Stupid" questions are often asked by those unwilling to think for themselves, don't you agree?
Haven't you ever purposefully asked a stupid question only to force others to think for themselves?
Well, of course but now you've gone and let the cat out of the bag, haven't you?
Sorry, was it Schroedinger's cat?
207  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 07:19:01 PM
that's a shitty question, we need to start a new run
for example, who do you  think will win the WC, Germany or Argentina?
Why do you think that your question is better than the previous question?
Why must we argue about who has the better question?
I have had more than one job where they say "there are no stupid questions", but I am not convinced.
Stupid questions do exist (so do stupid bosses  Cheesy), what do you think?
"Stupid" questions are often asked by those unwilling to think for themselves, don't you agree?
Haven't you ever purposefully asked a stupid question only to force others to think for themselves?
208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2014, 03:31:26 PM
Progess report thread on the 1170 BTC theft and bounty: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/klee-bounty!/
209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT
I give a 43% bounty for finding who stole my BTC and returning them (for 1170btc total that would be 500BTC)
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1GwNLwoCQiobJzmURSAq54vH4BYjFkwaxr
Whoever can get them back can get all back. Isn't 670BTC a bit expensive for Karma ?
Indeed.  Perhaps it will be possible to identify the thief by legal means; but anyone who can convince she to cough up the private keys is probably not a law-abiding citizen himself.  A sufficiently persuasive bounty hunter would run a serious risk of jail, while the thief may escape the law because of insufficient evidence.
210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Very severe blow to bitcoin on: July 11, 2014, 01:03:00 PM
I do not think a person like him can singlehandedly move the Bitcoin market.
Are you aware of Brock Pierce's experience with IGE?
EDIT: specified "his"
211  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 11:18:02 AM
that's a shitty question, we need to start a new run
for example, who do you  think will win the WC, Germany or Argentina?
Why do you think that your question is better than the previous question?
212  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 11, 2014, 04:35:15 AM
Readers of this thread may be interested in the thread below:
HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE
That would be full Karma anyways I'm a bit skeptical but if this is true were in for some fun
The conclusion of that thread is that the address is old, from well before MtGOX's collapse.  By the time he ran away he had moved to Nicosia.
EDIT: but if you are in Cyprus, now you know why you did not get yout MtGOX postcard.  Undecided
213  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 04:22:35 AM
Is that any of your business?
Well, someone DID ask a question then, didn't they?
Fine, but should I now ask whether it is any of THEIR business?
Well considering the fact that this is a public forum, isn't it everyone's business?
What do you think folks, was that a good question?
214  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: July 11, 2014, 04:15:17 AM
Is that any of your business?
Well, someone DID ask a question then, didn't they?
Fine, but should I now ask whether it is any of THEIR business?
215  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 11, 2014, 04:12:55 AM
Readers of this thread may be interested in the thread below:

HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE
216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dollar-Backed Digital Currency Aims to Fix Bitcoin’s Volatility Dilemma on: July 11, 2014, 04:08:08 AM
seems like a conflict of interest considering he is one of the newest members of the Bitcoin Foundation. 
Don't think the director is on salary. Correct me if I am wrong.
Brock Pierce does not need a salary, in fact he paid dearly to get there.
217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dollar-Backed Digital Currency Aims to Fix Bitcoin’s Volatility Dilemma on: July 11, 2014, 04:05:33 AM
A Santa Monica-based startup says it has produced the first dollar-backed digital currency.
I made it only to the first sentence before guffawing. Isn't the dollar the first dollar-backed digital currency?
Sometime in the 1980s I was a student intern at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC).  Some years before they had developed the Alto, the first usable personal workstation with an ethernet interface, bit-mapped display (instead of the then-standard 25x80 character display), a three-button mouse, and the basic ideas of a GUI -- menus, buttons, sliders, etc.

With much effort, the PARC researchers had managed to convince the upper Xerox management that those weird things could be marketed.  So Xerox started developing commercial versions of the Alto, that were planned to cost 80'000$ or more.

But, before those machines were ready, Apple unexpectedly launched the first Macintosh, which cost only a few thousand dollars and also had a bitmapped display, mouse, and a GUI with buttons, menus etc.  In fact Jobs had seen the Alto and copied those features from it.

As soon as the Macintosh was announced, someone at PARC collected all its TV ads and showed them in the lab's auditorium.  While most of the audience was a bit stunned and worried, there was a small group who laughed at every "weakness" of the Mac: its tiny screen, the mouse with just one button, the lack of a network interface, the floppy disk, and so on.

Needless to say the Xerox workstations were a complete flop, and Xerox had to pull out of the computer market.  And you all know what happened to the Mac.

So, perhaps it is not yet the time to laugh at RealCoin just because it is technically garbage.

218  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 11, 2014, 03:17:55 AM
Has there been any meaningful updates?
Looks like this debacle is now in the back of people's minds.
I understand that Mr. Kobayashi, the court-appointed liquidation supervisor,  has sent out paper mail to all known MtGOX customers asking them to fill some claim form until some deadline.  No further news are expected until that deadline.  Perhaps someone who got said p-mail can fill in the details.
219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dollar-Backed Digital Currency Aims to Fix Bitcoin’s Volatility Dilemma on: July 11, 2014, 01:03:14 AM
As described that has absolutely zero chance of being approved by the SEC.  Bearer shares and notes are explicitly unlawful under federal law.  They are unlawful for expressly that reason.  It isn't just a US thing, bearer shares have been outlawed most places on the planet. 
Are you sure that bearer bonds is the right comparison?  The article says that they are seeking "money transmitting licenses in states that require them", so in practice RealCoin may be more a competitor to PayPal, not a security; and in that case it may not fall under the SECś  jurisdiction, but of some other regulating agency (the Fed?).
220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dollar-Backed Digital Currency Aims to Fix Bitcoin’s Volatility Dilemma on: July 11, 2014, 12:24:20 AM
seems like a conflict of interest considering he is one of the newest members of the Bitcoin Foundation. 
Perhaps, but he is on the Board of Directors.

(BTW, I haven't been able to find a list of the directors in the Foundation's site, only a list of members and founding directors.  Also the minutes of the Board meetings seem to be open to members only, and the last one posted is 17/Mar/2014.)
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