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1921  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 15, 2014, 07:51:33 AM
Is one month long enough?
1922  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 15, 2014, 04:00:57 AM
This one, no?
1923  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 15, 2014, 02:04:57 AM
What am I asking?
1924  Economy / Securities / Re: Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) on: August 14, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
Each time I think "surely this is a joke," (as I did when I read ABitInterested's secret pr0nz site offering), I'm proven wrong.  
Turns out, ABitInterested was not trying his hand at sarcasm.  He was slowly and methodically separating Bitcoin investment enthusiasts and their coin.  Go figure, huh?

Now here's the kicker--IT WORKED!
Intrepid investors, finding nothing funny about a secret pr0nz site, eagerly sent their coin, through the intertubes, to Anon.  Just like that.

I'm not kidding--this happened, or, rather, is still happening as I type this.
I'm sorry, but your sarcasm simply got lost amidst vaudevillian slapstick that consumed Bitcoin securities.

I found it easier to express my feelings graphically.  (Can't remember whether I posted this on this thread already, apologies if I did):



[ click on image for full-size version ]
1925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 09:37:58 PM
To me, reading discussions of Monero and other anonymous coins on this public forum feels like watching a TV class on how to dig a tunnel into a building without being caught, or how to turn off all the security cameras in a bank by hacking into its network.  Does anyone else have a vague feeling of surreality, too?

1926  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: August 14, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
In my opinion we should gather together and hire a Private Investigator.
better hire a hitman Grin
Careful with jokes... Ross Ulbricht is in deep trouble for allegedly trying to do that. 
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 04:55:52 PM
So insiders dumped XRP for Bitcoin which ignited a bullrun in May...?
Maybe, or bought bitcoin with the intention of using them to buy Jed's XRP, expecting a surge in the BTC price for that.  But the only argument for that explanation is the rough coincidence of the two dates.
1928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 03:30:18 PM
wtf is happening.
why why why are you cashing out!
Well, if you care for my free analysis, guaranteed to be without any warranty: I suspect that the insider info that prompted a few people to buy in May20--Jun/10, lifting the price from 440$ all the way up to 640$, has turned into disappointment; so that those same people are unloading what they bought then. 

If this theory is correct, I would expect the price to drop back to ~450$, but not much lower than that. 

The "insider info" may have been indications that the big sale of Jed's XRP would happen, and the "disappointment" would then be the agreement that prevents Jed from selling for a coupld of years. The dates seem to match.  But it could be many other things...
1929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 02:55:24 PM
Not really, huobi and okcoin have mostly fake volumes.
Prove it. 

Salesmen of bitcoin and bitcoin-based funds desperately need that claim to be believed.  No one would put their money into an asset whose value depends entirely on the mood of thousands of amateur Chinese speculators who have no use for it other than day-trading. 

Bitcoin media like Coindesk are supported by bitcoin funds and other enterprises, and therefore spread the view that those sources want to be spread -- including the view that Huobi and OKCoin are unimportant, and the price of bitcoin is determined by its "adoption" in the west.  Informing bitcoin traders about the true state of the market is not their goal.
1930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 14, 2014, 02:43:09 PM
Litecoin adoption in china is nearly non existent except from speculative reason and some exchanges who added them.
Last December the Chinese government banned any use of cryptocurrencies, including both Bitcoin and Litecoin, except for speculative trade.

I haven't checked how the volumes are evolving, but  the largest exchanges (Huobi and OKCoin, much bigger than BTC-China and the western ones)  support both BTC/CNY and LTC/CNY.   

IIRC, Litecoin was started by Charlie Lee, brother of BTC-China's CEO Bobby Lee (who is now in the Board of Directors of The Shrem Karpelès & Friends Foundation).
1931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will plummet to $10 by first half of 2014 on: August 14, 2014, 02:31:27 PM
Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.
1932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 12:39:09 PM
Let's say that flying has just been invented.
... and a bunch of mechanics nerds build hundreds of copies of the Wright Bros' first flying plane and start selling them as a fabulous long-term investment, because they are obviously much better than horses, and in the future horse owners will surely pay a fortune for them ...
1933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 06:53:37 AM
Larger depth and LIVE PRICES !
... and still ignores the two elephants in the room ...
you are talking about ? I didn't resize the images, but I don't post that much... Sorry that it bothers you Jorge.
I meant Huobi and OKCoin.  Like an overview of the stock market that leaves out NYSE and NASDAQ, because "they are in the US so their volume is distorted".  But that has been discussed already...
1934  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 06:41:27 AM
Larger depth and LIVE PRICES !

... and still ignores the two elephants in the room ...
1935  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 14, 2014, 06:00:50 AM
"Yes!"
Who can say "buy BTC and certain alts" before prices finally soar higher?
Why would they soar higher?
Fear eases up an Greed takes over, so people rush in and start buying as much as possible.
Have you seen the charts from late last year?
Why are the charts of last year relevant to this year?
Have you seen the compass used to navigate them charts?
Why, are there people who draw circles on charts, instead of straight lines ?
Did you not study maps in school?
Cute map, but with those damn Teutonic plates shifting all the time, what would be the point?
1936  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 14, 2014, 05:46:47 AM
"Yes!"
Who can say "buy BTC and certain alts" before prices finally soar higher? 
Why would they soar higher?
Fear eases up an Greed takes over, so people rush in and start buying as much as possible.
Have you seen the charts from late last year?
Why are the charts of last year relevant to this year?
Have you seen the compass used to navigate them charts?
Why, are there people who draw circles on charts, instead of straight lines ?
1937  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 14, 2014, 05:34:10 AM
"Yes!"
Who can say "buy BTC and certain alts" before prices finally soar higher? 
Why would they soar higher?
Fear eases up an Greed takes over, so people rush in and start buying as much as possible.
Have you seen the charts from late last year?
Why are the charts of last year relevant to this year?
1938  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: August 14, 2014, 05:28:21 AM
"Yes!"
Who can say "buy BTC and certain alts" before prices finally soar higher?  Smiley
Why would they soar higher?
1939  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 03:29:18 AM
I didn't think we would see this last bear trap before the next bubble.
I think we were spoilt with 2 bubbles in 2013, so maybe zero in 2014 evens things out...
Well, maybe the 2014 bubble did happen: May/20--Aug/13...
1940  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 03:24:47 AM
Wait, wasn't there a conjecture that Jed's "big XRP sell-off" threat caused a major BTC price move?  When/what was that, anyone remembers?
https://xrptalk.org/topic/2629-selling-my-xrp/
May 21
Funny,

  BTC price suddenly shoots up on May 20, after a month or relative stagnation.
  Jed announces his big Ripple sell-off on May 21.

  BTC price suddenly starts to drop on Aug/11, after a month of relative stagnation.
  Ripple announces on Aug/13 an agreement with Jed that prevents a big sell-off for 1-2 years.

Nah, it must be that conspiracy that is trying to make me think that I am paranoid. 
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