Bitcoin Forum
May 09, 2016, 01:30:09 AM *
News: New! Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.12.1 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Donate Login Register  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 [29] 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 ... 362 »
561  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: July 25, 2015, 10:20:42 PM
i+p = ip = 3,14
i=?

In mathematics,"ip" is the irrational number that has the same digits as "pi", but in reverse order.

Let me guess: It's used in an equation that solves the Golden Slice of life.

Actually it relates the width of the perimeter of a circle to the width of its diameter.  (If you are going to get it experimentally, be sure to draw the figure with a very sharp pencil, and squint your eyes when measuring the widths.)
562  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: July 25, 2015, 07:20:45 PM
i+p = ip = 3,14
i=?

In mathematics,"ip" is the irrational number that has the same digits as "pi", but in reverse order.
563  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: July 25, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
Cars Vs Vans = Transformers Cheesy

Is a caravan a car or a van?
564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
To The M.....ike Tyson Bitcoin ATM ┗(°0°)┛

https://twitter.com/MikeTyson/status/624986928690036737

How much mike tyson will pump bitcoin ?

(i hope he will not make bitcoin KO  Grin )

Who's next, Bill Cosby?  Tongue

The George Foreman BATM.
565  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BFL fucked us over again (redux) on: July 25, 2015, 05:07:03 PM
^^^

I would call ICFI and see if they can shed some light on the subject.

http://www.icfi.com/about/our-people/icf/l/long-michael

Quote
CONTACT US

Email: info@icfi.com
Phone: +1.703.934.3603

Should't you first ask the FTC whether they did hire ICFI to do a survey?
566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2015, 12:15:01 AM
Gemini will be a "fully regulated, fully compliant" exchange with major fiat backing (Winklevoss twins) They also have a major stake in Bitcoin with a reported 1-2 percent of there assets in BTC.

What will they offer that itBit doesn't?

567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2015, 01:47:24 PM

Headline: "The French bitcoin revolution: BNP Paribas testing crypto on its currency funds"

Columnist's interpretation:

Quote
France's biggest bank BNP Paribas is looking at ways bitcoin could be incorporated into one its currency funds, according to a source at the bank.

Actual statement by the "source at the bank":

Quote
A spokeswoman for BNP Paribas said: "We are looking at blockchain technology and how it can be applied to post trade processes to make things faster and potentially cheaper but it's all very much projects and it's all in testing. It's nothing live."

"Blockchain technology" is not bitcoin, and does not have to be bitcoin's blockchain, or any cryptocurrency blockchain.

I don't know what "post trade processes" mean, but it is definitely not trading bitcoin...
568  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: July 24, 2015, 01:21:15 AM
Most metals form carbides, but tin and lead are two notable exceptions.  Perhaps their carbides exist too, but decompose to the separate elements at fairly low temperatures, below the melting point of the metals; and are also decomposed by water, like the calcium carbide of carbide lamp fame.  That may explain the failure of all attempts to prepare them by direct reaction of the elements, or by reacting aqueous solutions of salts of those metals with acetylene or other carbides.  (I don know whether the latter experiment has been tried with a polar but aprotic solvent, like propylene carbonate, in place of water.)  There is however an isolated claim of a micron-thin film of PbC2 having been detected on the inner surface of a sealed graphite crucible that was used to melt a Pb-Bi alloy and allowed to cool down very slowly.  If the report is correct, perhaps the carbide formed by reaction of the graphite with Pb vapor, when the temperature was too low to decompose it.
569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2015, 02:48:13 AM
Within 6 months after the last halving bitcoin went up 10 fold, within 12 months it went up 100 fold.

That is true... however:

In the 2 years before the last halving (2010-11-27 -- 2012-11-27) the price rose from ~0.28 to ~13 $/BTC (~45 times)

The price was practically flat around the halving (on 2012-11-28) and for the next 5 weeks.

In the 2 years after that halving (2012-11-29 and 2014-11-29) the price rose from ~13 to ~330 $/BTC (~25 times)

These numbers do not seem to indicate a significant correlation between the block reward and the price evolution.

Moreover, the rallies in 2013 have other explanations, not related to the reward:  Bobby Lee took the command at BTC-China, OKCoin and Huobi opened in Mailand China, and bitcoin was "discovered"  by some big investors like Fortress and marc Adreessen, and by the legion of Chinese amateur commodity traders. 

By the way: the crash of Dec/2014 was clearly due to developments in China, so the preceding rally must have been born there, too.
570  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: July 23, 2015, 02:10:05 AM
What is this thread about? Cheesy

It is probably not about the consistency of the pulp of the berries of the Eastern Mistletoe or North America, unfortunately.
571  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: July 21, 2015, 08:10:06 AM
I need more money, who knows the directions to get some?
Three blocks down the street, then turn left, then one and a half blocks more.  If you are lucky, there will be a pile of money on the sidewalk waiting for you.  If not, then I don't know...
572  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we stress testing again? on: July 20, 2015, 03:10:16 PM
I doubt that there will be a report. As far as I know, there is nobody, who claimed that they did the big one. coinwallet.eu(whoever the hell they are) got pretty silent.

In that previous report that I linked to, they say that they had aborted the test for technical problems, they were about to retry the full test, and that their goal was to get 200 MB of backlog.  Which they did.  I see no reason to think that the test was done by some other entity.

On the other hand, no one knows who "coinwallet.eu" actually is.
573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we stress testing again? on: July 20, 2015, 12:27:47 PM
There's no more stress test, which is nice. I hope the guy who did it will share some info with us.

After the first aborted attempt, Coinwallet.eu posted a report of the method and effects on reddit.  Hopefully they will do the same for this one.
574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2015, 05:45:28 AM
you miss 120 if you dont pay electricity (just the internet and maintenance) btw its quite difficult to find free electricity these days  Grin

There is no free electricity, of course; only electricity that someone else does not know he is paying for.  Grin
575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!) on: July 19, 2015, 12:23:02 AM
Great news! Colorado remains a Bitcoin friendly state.

Other people were charged in the same operation.  What happened to them?
Just two pages back:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934268.msg11890239#msg11890239

Thanks! (I didn't realize that those cases were part of @BurtW's operation; I thought that they were just similar cases presented for comparison.)
576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!) on: July 18, 2015, 11:06:07 PM
Great news! Colorado remains a Bitcoin friendly state.

Other people were charged in the same operation.  What happened to them?
577  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we stress testing again? on: July 18, 2015, 10:05:58 PM
aand its back on.

Oops!  Indeed. "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we stress testing again? on: July 18, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
There are now only 2742 unconfirmed transactions and that should result in the backlog getting cleared fairly quickly. Nobody will be waiting 48 hours+ for a transaction to confirm from now on unless the stress testers start again. They had a limited budget and they probably spent it all by now.

Some nodes "censor" what they consider "spam" transactions in an attempt to cut down their own load and prevent them from being included in the blockchain.  This site still shows ~18 MB of backlog (bottom plot), which is clearing at the rate of ~10 MB/day.  

The backlog now seems to consist mainly of small-fee transactions, so the fees required to get confirmed in 2-3 blocks are back to almost the pre-test levels (when there was no backlog, so higher fees should not have bought faster service).

Coinwallet.eu, the entity ostensibly running this test, claimed originally to have a budget of 5000 euros (~5000 USD), and the goal of creating a 200 MB backlog of unconfirmed transactions.  They reached that goal on 2015-07-11, and the backlog has been clearing since then.  As predicted, it would take about a week to clear.

The incoming traffic rate reached a peak of over 110 tx/s on 2015-07-07. The average pre-test traffic was 1.4 tx/s, and it rarely went above 2 tx/s.  The network's effective capacity is less than 4 tx/s.  There are still occasional bursts of incoming traffic at 20-20 tx/s, and a background rate of ~3 tx/s. The extra traffic may be other people collecting their gazillion outputs that they sent to donation and public addresses.

Transaction fees added to about 20 BTC/day, on average, before the test.  This plot Shows that the miners collected so far 9 + 25 + 30 + 22 + 19 + 17 + 26 + 14 + 8 + 8 + 7 + 5 = 190 BTC of fees, above the normal amount, as a result of this test.  At today's price, that is ~52'000 USD of extra revenue for them.



579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we stress testing again? on: July 18, 2015, 03:48:23 AM
Still running at around 11,000 unconfirmed transactions - https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

This seems to have become the norm now, my memory is terrible but I swear the average used to be somewhere between 500 - 3000 at any one time. It's terrible really, how long are these stress tests spam attacks set to go on for?

According to statoshi.org, there is still an excess traffic, ~3 transactions/second (compared to the average of 1.4 tx/s that was the norm before the "test").  

Yet the backlog is being cleared: from its peak of ~200 MB iy is down to ~35 MB.  The slow rate of clearing is due to the 1 MB block size limit, coupled to the unwillingness of many miners to mine full 1 MB blocks.  

On the other hand, most of those transactions in the backlog are paying low fees, so the fees that are needed to get prompt service are almost back to the pre-test levels.

580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we stress testing again? on: July 15, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
What else did this test achieve? It did not show us how users behave when there's real competition for block space.

Definitely not.

Quote
It did not show us that increasing blocksize limit is a silver bullet to spam problem (quite the contrary, in fact).

Well, if the block size limit had been 8 MB instead of 1 MB, with the same budget the "testers" would have achieved a much smaller backlog, and it would have cleared much faster.  And clients would have got faster service by paying the same fee.

There are two issues in the block size question, that must be considered separately: how will the system behave under natural growth of its "normal" traffic, and how it will behave under a malicious spam attack.  As far as I can tell, in both situations 8 Mb will be much better than 1 MB.  

An increase in the minimum fee (and making it really minimum) would also help, in both scenarios.

Quote
It also did not show us whether the devs are incapable of solving problems, because this test didn't demontrate anything serious in the first place.

Agreed.  As a test, it should have had a more useful goal than just "create a 200 MB backlog".  For this goal, it would not have been necessary to use more than the minimum fee.  Since they used higher than minimum fees, they must have had some other goal, even if unconscious.  Then they should have stated this goal explicitly and devised a fee strategy to achieve it.

Quote
Maybe I'm not seeing something, but to me this test was a waste of money.

Actually, if this theory is right (and I have no evidence that it is), it may have been profitable -- meaning that they could keep running the test for as long as they wanted, even with increasing fees, without running out of money...
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 [29] 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 ... 362 »
Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!