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721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2015, 03:29:26 AM
can we preorder this?

I suppose that, when production starts, it should be available at Staples (in boxes of 500).
722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2015, 03:22:52 AM
Leaked image of a 21.co household appliance with embedded mining chip:



(This is only a low-power protopype with Wifi, NFC, Bluetooth, and USB. The production version will have also G3/G4, HDMI, and a power plug rated 30A.)
723  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A bitcoin miner in every hand on: June 03, 2015, 03:19:20 AM
Leaked image of a 21.co household appliance with embedded mining chip

(This is only a low-power protopype with Wifi, NFC, Bluetooth, and USB. The production version will have also G3/G4, HDMI, and a power plug rated 30A.)
724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
Looks like Itbit got some new users (new traders or just old ones moving to regulated exchange?). Their volume is growing fast... https://tradeblock.com/markets/itbt/xbt-usd/15m/

Didn't they go zero-fee for this whole month?  Or am I thinking of some other exchange?
725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2015, 11:28:55 AM

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/381ttv/litecoin_has_the_equivalent_of_4mb_blocks/crs82wt
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Believe it or not, bitcoin traders often use litecoin to move funds quickly between exchanges to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities.

Should I believe it or not?
726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2015, 09:20:48 AM
light bulb miner guys. it's big

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-light-bulbs-mine-bitcoin/
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"We believe that the project’s focus should not be on making money from bitcoin mining, but on creating innovative solutions with main purpose to use this product for educational purposes and fun."

Which one your girlfriend is more likely to come upstairs to see:

(a) the autographed photo of you and Justin Bieber;
(b) the pet rock that Granma gave you;
(c) your bitcoin-mining lamp?

But maybe one can use heat from a mining chip to drive a Lava Lamp?
727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 11:46:02 PM
Not a good sign when the Chief Scientist of the coin your investing in threatens to jump ship would be my guess.

He is not the Chief Scientist of Bitcoin, of course.  He stil calls himself the Chief Scientist of the Shrem Karpeles & Friends Foundation; even though the Foundation is now in Roger Ver solvency status, and his salary is actually paid by an MIT digital currency project.
728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 01:51:57 PM
Sounds like the FUD that only JorgeStolfi would write.  Cheesy
No, you've actually come across uncharacteristically, for lack of a better word, sane with regard to this block size stuff.

Should we be concerned for your well-being that something is terribly wrong?
No, it is just that I believe bitcoin is doomed either way, so it is easy for me to be neutral.  Cheesy
729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 12:46:37 PM
Let me FTFY

Blockchain.info, a private company named after the bitcoin blockchain, has issued an update for their Android bitcoin wallet after discovering a critical security flaw which could lead to a consumer led to several consumers generating a well known and unsecure the same address whose private key could be computed by anyone who knew the bug.

FTFY
730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 12:41:01 PM
Not sure why Gavin doesn't create an environement and then request a load test.

A few weeks ago he wrote that he had run tests with a 20 MB version of Bitcoin-Core.  I don't know how realistic were the tests.
731  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A bitcoin miner in every hand on: June 01, 2015, 12:23:25 PM
Still no information about the hashpower and consumption of the 21.co chips?

Usually, when a company hides "strategic" data, it is because the data is disappointing, or worse...
732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 11:03:04 AM
Bitcoin-XT is not a re-implementation, it's a patch on top of Bitcoin Core that adds two features, double-spend relaying (which can be flagged for inspection) and the BIP64 getutxos message (which he needs for Lighthouse). The reason XT exists is because Mike Hearn can't get BIP64 implementation merged into Core (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4351). Gavin happened to be for putting BIP 64 in, so moving forward if this happened, Bitcoin-XT would be a proper fork based on the actual Core codebase, simply with these two differences plus the blocksize changes. The fact that moving to XT is considered a viable option might suggest that there is a much larger "turf war" going on here since at least the middle of 2014.

Thanks!

Indeed there seems to be more going on than a simple technical disagreement.

I won t say that Gavin's proposal is the best one, but at least I understand his position: "with 1 MB blocks the network is close to saturation and will not handle the volume that we would like to see, so let's make the blocks bigger".

The thinking of his opponents (who include Peter Todd, Gregg Maxwell, and Luke Dash Jr.) seems less clear: they say that they are worried about the consequences of bigger blocks, but they have no alternative proposal to deal with impending congestion, and seem to want to see the network saturate.

Someone on reddit pointed out that most or all of those big opponents work for Blockstream, the company that was supposed to develop sidechains and is now working on a thing called the Lightning Network,  Those are projects that would provide fast bitcoin transactions and other bitcoin services (such as micropayment channels) outside the blockchain.  That could be a reason for wanting the network to saturate.  However, Greg says that they were opposed to big blocks well before creating Blockstram.

Someone else suggested that they may want to see the network saturate so that big non-payment users like NASDAQ and Factom are forced to pay huge fees, like $50 on a 1000 satoshi transaction.  That would push common users out of the system and turn bitcoin into a tool for big corporations only.  (Peter Todd does not miss a chance to mention that he is "talking to Big Banks".) Sounds like the FUD that only JorgeStolfi would write.  Cheesy

Anyway, last Friday night a handful of reddit users set out, without much planning, to try to saturate the network with small transactions.  In the course of 2 hours (23:00 to 01:00 UTC) they put out maybe 30'000 transaction requests.  The queues at the nodes got over the 20'000 mark and the backlog took 8 hours to clear.  It is not clear what fees the guys paid, but they did not put much money into it.  Yet Luke Jr claims that the test only showed that 1 MB is fine.  Boh.

Perhaps the real fear is how the system will react to an intentional hard fork, that is not mandated by a bug...
733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 05:41:05 AM
im a bit confused with this bitcoinxt stuff, is it another coin? why do we really need it? if its a fork, then we could have 2 chains of btc? is gavin an ass? how many coins have more than 1mb size? thanks

As far as I know:

What everybody calls "bitcoin" consists of two things: the "bitcoin blockchain" that was started by Satoshi on 2009-01-03, and the "bitcoin protocol", a set of rules that say how the blockchain must be changed and used in response to client requests.

"Bitcoin-core" is a software that implements the bitcoin protocol. The first version was written by Satoshi sometime in 2008 or earlier.  It has been patched and improved since then by a handful of people, the "core devs".  Gavin inherited control of that software after Satoshi's rapture in 2010.  Recently he passed the job to another core dev, and now he works for a project at MIT.

"Bitcoin-XT" is another implementation of the bitcoin protocol, started by Mike Hearn.  It is still compatible with Bitcoin-core; either version can be used with the same wallet files.  Gavin recently said that he would be joining Mike in the development of this software.  Gavin mentioned very recently that he may use this version to push for the 20 MB change, since the current core devs do not seem to be in a hurry,
734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2015, 03:07:17 AM
I sold everything. Hope to buy back cheaper, when this whole core / xt-thing blows over.

Gavin's plan (as I understood from his posts) is to deploy a large-block version of the software now, but the change would be programmed so as to allow 20 MB blocks only starting in Q4/2016.

That way, hopefully most everybody will have time to upgrade to the new version and adapt their own programs to allow for 20 MB blocks -- including the major exchanges and services, and most miners.  If that happens, the critical date will pass without a ripple for those who have upgraded.  For the laggards and rebels still using the old version at that time, they will find that they cannot use the exchanges and services, or maybe even move their coins; until they upgrade too.
735  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A scaled up spam experiment : #SpamTheBlockchain As A Service on: May 31, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
If we can't reach consensus, I think it will provoke a split of Bitcoin (XTCoin versus Bitcoin), which is to my mind, the equivalent of a nuclear disaster to this space.

I think that is an exaggeration. 

I guess that fewer than 1% of the bitcoiners (2'000 in 200'000) are so opposed to the very idea of a hard fork -- even one with a single outgoing branch -- that they will rather use the "old bitcoin" only among themselves, with a ridiculous block rate, than user the "new bitcoin".

The other 99% of bitcoiners do not know about the issue, do not care enough to bother, are in favor of the change, or will assent to it because they do not want problems.

For the large players that matter -- large miners, exchanges, payment processors -- the 20 MB limit will be only a small annoyance. They will go with the crowd.

Thus, i expect that most players will upgrade to the large-block version, well before the fork.  They will not even notice when the fork happens, and the price will not suffer any permanent drop.

I also expect that most of those "rebels" will then give up and upgrade too, in order to recover the value of their investment.

Thus, if the "old bitcoin" does not die immediately after the fork block, it will probably die very soon after that.
736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2015, 02:13:58 PM
"From February 6, 2011 to July 23, 2013 there were approximately 1,229,465 transactions completed on the site. The total revenue generated from these sales was 9,519,664 Bitcoins, and the total commissions collected by Silk Road from the sales amounted to 614,305 Bitcoins. These figures are equivalent to roughly $1.2 billion in revenue and $79.8 million in commissions, at current Bitcoin exchange rates...",

Not really sure but its def in the tens of billions per year.

Thanks!

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Also there is a bigger shadow economy operating on the darkweb, worth hundreds of billions, the users include, big pharma corps/politicians/businessmen/bankers and lords of war. They turnover more than the world economy every year.

Hundreds of billions is still tiny compared to the world's economy.  Visa alone processes trillions of dollars in payments per year.
737  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: May 31, 2015, 02:03:28 PM
Would it be legally possible for Kobayashi to reimburse the MtGox customers in 2 steps?

I don't know whether that is legally possible, but mutiple payouts should be technically possible once the claims are collected and validated.

If that is the case, I suppose that distribution of the existing JPY assets could be made immediately.  The BTC assets would depend on whether they have to be converted to JPY or not.  Then, more rounds should happen if and when the legal actions against Tibanne and the other parties yield more funds.
738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2015, 05:24:36 AM
same volume of sales listed on dark market sites.
That's listings volume. Not sales. Huge difference.

It may be just the number of listings, not even considering quantity of each item. 

Is there an estimate of the sales volume (USD/year or equivalent) of those dark markets?
739  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: May 31, 2015, 03:36:36 AM
Jorge, Dargo works for Kraken. When a statement like that goes out in public that means it automatically risks their image. I'd bet they had inside info since they were the chosen ones from all the exchanges to handle the MtGox case... Roll Eyes

Maybe...

Sorry to say this, but it seems that most bitcoiners simply refuse to understand that the legal system does not work at all like an internet forum or bitcoin statup.  We saw it in hundreds of scams, from MtGOX to Neo&Bee to the bizarre capers of Ver x Ripple and Ver x OKCoin: bitcoiners are totally naive when it comes to laws and courts.  Perhaps it is a consequence of the libertarian beliefs, but bitcoiners seem unable and unwilling to distinguish their wishes from their rights, their dreams from reality...

There is no "being nice" in law.  The whole point of it is to suppress the conflicting opinions and wishes of the two parties, and replace them by supposedly blind rules, mechanical procedures, and unquestionable decisions by impartial judges.

Accepting claims after a precise, court-mandated deadline is quite against that spirit.  I don't think that even Kobyashi could authorize that.  Kraken promising to do so without prior approval by Kobayashi (that is what the quote said) is more likely to be wishful thinking and recklessness than inside information.  Them being contracted to handle the claim collection does not give them authority to override what the court expressely determined.
740  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: May 31, 2015, 03:14:16 AM
Does anyone know how many Bitcoins are likely to be returned after all the lawyers fees and other expenses have been deducted? Lawyers fees alone can be astronomically high.

some people said 25% in other topics(can't remember where I've read it, so can't give sources)

But I guess won't be much, and can perfectly be 0 or very close to 0

Among the documents in the mtgox site are detailed reports by Kobayashi about the situation of the spoils.  (Scroll to the end, each PDF includes an Engish translation.)

His fees,and the fees of all consultants that he has hired, will be quite substantial, but small compared to the 200 kBTC and several M USD that are left.

These spoils are only 20-25% of the sum total of all client account balances at the time of the collapse, so that is the basic guess for the percentage that will be returned.  The exact amount will depend on how many peopel file a claim, and how many claims will be accepted as valid by Kobayashi.

But AFAIK it is not yet known whether he can return the BTC as BTC, or he will have to auction them to convert them to JPY.
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