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1661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 03:44:41 AM
Note the above time stamps. Clearly, I am one of Jorge's many troll accounts.

I don't know about that; but I swear that I am not one of yours.
1662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 03:43:20 AM
Half the people trading in China are 'western'.
... who strangely start trading when the day breaks in China, and go to bed when it is late night in China ...
That's what they want you to believe...

Hey, that would be a brilliant trick! The Chinese exchanges collude to delay their trade and price data by 12 hours, so arbitragers cause the Western exchanges (including Bitfinex) to repeat what they did 12 hours earlier, so they can make a killing by trading futures at Bitfinex...   Grin
1663  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: January 28, 2015, 03:31:21 AM
"Why do you all quote each message?"
Like this, you mean?
1664  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 03:29:28 AM
Why isn't StolfiCoin a thing yet?  I'd gladly pump it beyond the moon and through the oort cloud.

Don't give me ideas...  Wink
1665  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 03:27:42 AM
Half the people trading in China are 'western'.

... who strangely start trading when the day breaks in China, and go to bed when it is late night in China ...
1666  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: January 28, 2015, 01:12:49 AM
Why would he give us math this late at night??
Was that a question or an explanation?

Can I get back to you on that?
Might already be morning for him, don't you know his timezone?
Isn't maths really easy when you understand?
Do you realize that you dont need to do math when you can pay someone else to do the math ?
But what if the math tells him that he would profit more by using the result himself?
how come math would tell him that way ? isnt it true that larger scale means more profitable and larger scale means you hire lot of ppl to do the math instead of doing it all yourself ?
Why should we read your question?
do you feel lucky ?
Why would he feel lucky?
pls explain why wouldnt he feel lucky ?
Maybe he was tired

Seriously, do you seriously believe that Lucky ever gets tired?
Wouldn't you get tired after two hours of that?^^ Grin
You're not a super human sex god?

Could a super human sex god carve this?
Probably He/She would have devoted His/Her training to other skills; but if He/She had a 60 watt CO2 laser engraver, could He/She scam a few grand from unsuspecting buyers?
Is that made of wood?
It is, why do you ask?
Then what is the true material for physical bitcoin? Or is it completely digitized?
You know zeronium, that metal that is two rows above lithium on the periodic table?
Doesnt that metal has somthing todo with unobtainium ?
Isn't unobtanium an altcoin?
indeed, how could I forget that?
1667  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Rick Rolled by Coinbase, so I went to look at their local beautiful SF office... on: January 28, 2015, 12:22:16 AM
Is it too early to wonder whether NYSE stands for "New York Sausage Emporium"?

1668  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Rick Rolled by Coinbase, so I went to look at their local beautiful SF office... on: January 28, 2015, 12:01:43 AM
Well, they claim to have a real office in SF:
blog.coinbase.com/post/82766793207/weve-moved-to-a-new-office

It has been conjectured that they keep that EarthMail address for security reasons.

EDIT: Very spartan and tidy that office, monastic even, isn't it?
1669  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 09:04:05 PM
So... Now that we know each other and practically family, how many of these here valuable shiny coins are you gonna be wantin'?

For now, I think I will just increase my holdings by 50%, just because you insist. 

I hope my order does not sweep right through Coinbase's entire order book.
1670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 08:01:55 PM
Chinese exchanges are consistently lower than western.

Sites like bitcoinwisdom use the official currency exchange rate, pulled from some public site, to convert CNY to USD.  However, arbitragers must include currency exchange fees and other factors in their computations.  So the ratio of Chinese CNY price over Western USD price is usually different from the official currency exchange rate.
1671  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 07:57:57 PM
By the way, the pump was mostly china, it's always china.

Was it?  If so, I take my post back...
1672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/california-regulator-coinbase-exchange-regulated-licensed/

fucking coinbase. they dont even have a 1/3 of states

And they were, um, obfuscating when they claimed to be the "first" licensed US exchange.

And they were also, er, obfuscating when they let people to think that client BTC balances are insured.

And, furthermore, they were, ahem, obfuscating when they left the impression that client USD balances are insured by FDIC.
1673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 07:50:44 PM
The recent "flash-bubble" created by the Coinbase announcement shows that the "West" can lift the price by at least +50 dollars (~250 to ~300) with suitable rumors.

You are aware that a single 3.5 million dollar market order on bitfinex takes the price up to 470 dollars.

Is that a confirmed fact, or a deduction based on the order book?  If the latter, it does not mean anything: arbitragers pull in orders from all the other exchanges (including those that are not carried by any chart site).  A large buy would also bring in some of the coins that are sitting in off-exchange wallets, or in the traders' accounts but not in the order book.

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If big money wants the price to rise, it rises, or falls or whatever they want, and for tiny amounts of cash in wall street terms. There is a limit to what can be shorted (available btc for lending) on Western exchanges, but a single motivated individual (say Tim Draper) could at any moment drive up the price and keep it there.

Imagine if the price was pumped to 400 by a big buy and then a 50 million dollar bid support wall appeared on coinbase.

The empirical observation above accounts for the money that is actually available, ie. that Western traders will pour into the market in response to positive rumors.  Of course it depends on how positive are the rumors.

As for conjectures: with enough money, the price could rise to the moon of Pluto (and, with enough BTC, it could drop to single digits).
1674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
The recent "flash-bubble" created by the Coinbase announcement shows that the "West" can lift the price by at least +50 dollars (~250 to ~300) with suitable rumors.

I am assuming that the Chinese did not pay attention to the rumor, as they have not paid attention to other similar news in the past.  I am also assuming that the gentler upward trend that started around 2015-01-15 comes from China,  not from the "West"

I still don't know what caused the mini-bubble that started on 2014-05-20.  If it was created in the West, too, then it would imply that the "West" can pump the price by +200 $/BTC (modulo the possibility that the increment may depend on the starting price level).  
1675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 07:15:50 PM
Where i can find Coinbase exchange data / volume,order book / etc ?

This one too:
https://tradeblock.com/markets/base/xbt-usd
1676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 05:46:22 PM
pro tip : tim draper is a moron

Or a loving father.  Wink
1677  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 03:15:46 PM
[stuff that no one care about]
Where is Greece anyhow, near China?  I know you guys invented democracy and popularized homosexuality, but what have you done lately?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czyLLlaO3s
1678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 02:24:48 PM
Neocon governments, austerity and privatization are things that the banks love and push for.  

People are responsible, not the banks, if tax evasion was failed to be curbed and the finances weren't straightened. This could have been done many years ago.
In the elections last year they swore to remove Dilma after she tried to lower the prime rate.  They fully supported the candidate of that same neocon party, and almost got him elected in spite of him being despised even by his own party.
ROFL, she already raised it again, haha... If it wasn't increased, inflation would be higher than it is (it is already high).

Let me guess: you are Brazilian, you subscribe to Veja and Estadão, you watch 3 hours of Globo news every night, and voted neocon all the way...
1679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
which was created by criminal borrowing by the neocon government, 20 to 12 years ago (and only keeps growing).

Was the irresponsible handling of debt somehow due to the actions of the banks?

Neocon governments, austerity and privatization are things that the banks love and push for.  In the elections last year they swore to remove Dilma after she tried to lower the prime rate.  They fully supported the candidate of that same neocon party, and almost got him elected in spite of him being despised even by his own party.

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That borrowing came together with austerity measures (= taking more from the people, giving them less) and radical privatization (= giving people's property to banks for a pittance).

That happened after the debt got out of control.

The humongous debt was created by that same government, at the same time with the austerity measures and privatization.

1680  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 12:51:08 PM

 Cheesy I cringe whenever i see these 2 goofy fucks trying to sell me snake oil

Is that OK with the SEC?  Telling people that their would-be ETF fund may be worth 10'000% or 100'000% more in the future?

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